China Blocks Another Search Engine 29
Mr Natural writes "The BBC are reporting that the great firewall of china has blocked a second seach engine, AtlaVista.com, only a week after google was blocked. Here is the article."
Eureka! -- Archimedes
Re:The only way to get people to use AltaVista (Score:3, Funny)
I, like many "EXTREME" searchers, ...
What the hell is an extreme searcher? Do you quick look up something on your laptop just before jumping out of an airplane? Or maybe you do a quick search after performing a knarly skateboard stunt?
Totally rad, Dude!
GMD
Re:The only way to get people to use AltaVista (Score:2)
Atlavista (Score:2)
Re:Atlavista (Score:1)
Re:Atlavista (Score:1)
let's see (Score:2)
Search no webpage see no webpages know no webpages
Re:let's see (Score:2)
Now they've gone too far.
alternate interfaces (Score:3, Interesting)
It wouldn't be hard for somebody to create an email interface to google or altavista, though there would be significant bandwidth costs associated with it. A query could return an HTML email containing the 50 highest rated sites. In the event sites are blocked alternate commands could even return a cached copy of a particular site.
An email interface would be more difficult to block since its easy to generate sites that only provide a transmit/store/forward interface to the real email server.
Re:alternate interfaces (Score:1)
tightening the grip (Score:2)
Re:tightening the grip (Score:1)
China: The Evil Empire (Score:3, Funny)
The more they tighten their grip, the more web sites will slip through their fingers.
GMD
So how long will it take this time? (Score:1)
use google by email instead (Score:3, Informative)
Re:use google by email instead (Score:1)
Now that's brutal honesty. I like those guys. Although the folks in marketing may feel a bit differently.
yet another reason why we need a p2p search system (Score:2)
a fully distributed content-addressible web [onionnetworks.com]
infrastructure is the best way to resolve this
problem once and for all. linked with a
good distributed proxy [peek-a-booty.org] infrastructure, or better yet, a fully anonymized transport it will take herculean efforts
to do this kind of information-suppression.
Sell-out (Score:4, Insightful)
Ahem. Bullshit. This makes Yahoo sound like a hero. It should be re-worded as: Yahoo capitulates to Chinese government in order to retain 90 million potential eye-balls.
This is why I trust Google's results over Yahoo's. Google takes the moral high-ground and refuses to censor the Internet. I don't have to worry that my search results will be skewed by somebody's agenda.
Government Laziness and Popular Effort (Score:2)
gogle.com [gogle.com] is still accessible. If I were in charge at google, I'd just make that domain point the site rather than redirect. You know, just to piss the chinese authorities off, 'til they find it and block it. AFAIK google own a few other mis-spellings of their domain.
What I'd like to know is what sort of backlash there is in china against The Great Firewall? I very much doubt that this blocking goes un-noticed, yet I have never heard anything about any sort of resistance to it in china or any other country in the media, although it almost certainly does exist.
Naturally, a quick search on you-know-what brings up some [216.239.37.100] interesting [fofg.org] links. [stanford.edu]
I'd also like to add that I believe hacktivism to be, at least in this case, piss-all use, and that graffiti on government buldings is the way to get the message to the intellectual proles. And also the way to torture and execution.
Have a nice day.
Ali
Never Heard of It (Score:1, Redundant)
Glad they didn't block Altavista.. [altavista.com]
Too bad they aren't like Microsoft... (Score:2)
from: http://www.fofg.org/news/who_lost_china_internet.
great article.
-malakai
Important Update: Rerouting (Score:2)
It seems it's not just blocking access to the sites but re-routing requests to Google to search engines of the government's choice. See Reuters article [yahoo.com]
Some relevant bits:
Some users in Beijing and Shanghai were redirected to Peking University's no-frills search site Tianwang, the little known cj888.com and the American-invested Baidu.com, among others. Users in Guangzhou were rerouted to the local portal 21cn.com.
So, perhaps the real goal here is to divert traffic to local search engines and increase their market share?
Out of the woods ! (Score:1)