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Sony Proudly Rolls Out Spyware/Restrictions System 527

jhonny writes "Sony announced a new DRM technology called OpenMG X. Basically it keeps track on how many times you played/viewed (or tried to copy) your product and sends these statistics to the copyright holder."
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Sony Proudly Rolls Out Spyware/Restrictions System

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  • Pot, Kettle, Black (Score:5, Informative)

    by JohnPM ( 163131 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:08AM (#4038956) Homepage
    It's humerous that one of the biggest Japanese companies is so concerned with intellectual property. The Japanese reputation with regards to Patent enforcement is a model for the anti-Amazon burn-the-patents crowd. This is illustrated by, for example, Texas Instruments getting bent over by Fujitsu in 97 [ti.com].

  • Re:zone alarm (Score:4, Informative)

    by Lussarn ( 105276 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:17AM (#4039046)
    A personal firewall isn't good enough. If the software who is phoning home disables the firewall you wouldn't notice. A firewall needs to be on it's own secure box.
  • by uncoveror ( 570620 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:28AM (#4039136) Homepage
    Now that Sony's computer division is on the same page as their music division, it is time to boycott all their products, not just their CDs. [dontbuycds.org] Don't buy anything from Sony.
  • by sqlrob ( 173498 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:29AM (#4039140)
    PKI = Public Key Infrastructure

    e.g. all communication between client and server is signed. Client encrypts with server public key, server signs with its private key. The client rejects anything unsigned or incorrectly signed. If the authentication requests are always changing (random number, time, counter are included in the signed request), replay attacks won't work.

    You would need to either compromise the private key or find a weakness in the algorithm. Done correctly, that would take many years to do. By which point the newest version of the product is out and you have to start over on the attack.

  • by metlin ( 258108 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:43AM (#4039252) Journal
    I'm not eager to have Sony keeping track of the games and music I'm playing on my PlayStation. This is a good opportunity for Nintendo to distinguish themselves by embracing freedom.

    Unfortunately, little does this have anything to do with 'embracing' freedom or supporting anything that even vaguely resembles it.

    It's got everything to do with marketing, and money. Sony is probably testing waters by introducing such DRM "sensitive" devices into all their products. When all the capitalistic forces jump onto the bandwagon (if it works out for Sony), the actions of other companies would be guided by market forces.

    Even assuming that Nintendo does take an openview of things and says Go EFF, it'd still not do much good for Nintendo for 2 reasons -

    a] The fraction of population that actually understands what Nintendo is trying to do, and buys things to help them do so would be very very small indeed. Besides, it's a good product that sells, based on the needs, immaterial of how laudable your goals are. Look what happened to Loki. They made very good products, and definitely had a great vision. But just that does not suffice in an evergrowing corpy environment.

    b] If all the big players take on such measures, then Nintendo will have to follow suit, else they risk being sued/litigated to kingdom come. If some performer claimed that because Nintendo lacked the technology to prevent abuse, people were pirating, Nintendo would be up against the wall.

    Also, in the article -

    "OpenMG X" flexibly adapts to the distribution of content to PCs, as well as services which distribute content directly to AV and mobile devices.


    Now that would be a killer. Because, right now the only people who can actually help you here are the PC Industry manufacturers. As long as they don't stick up an OEM deal to you that voids your hardware if you do not own their "h4xor pr00f 4nt1 p1r4cy" software or something like that, it's good for us. But once you get embedded software onto the ROMs that would do something along the lines of what Sony is suggesting, then the bells start tolling.

    Until them, we have some (borrowed?) time.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:44AM (#4039261)
    I run both and things that get by zonealarm don't get by sygate. Although running windows and trying to be secure is like leaving your laptop in an unlocked car. Unwise.
  • by gregstoll ( 90319 ) <776wripc001.sneakemail@com> on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:53AM (#4039334) Homepage
    Day 9: Start receiving adult advertizements on TiVo when paused.

    FUD. You don't get advertisements on TiVo when it's paused (the only advertisements you have to actually select to view).

  • Re:zone alarm (Score:4, Informative)

    by Jucius Maximus ( 229128 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @10:56AM (#4039346) Journal
    "hope you dont allow web browsers to get through zonealarm. As it has been shown before, a program can open a URL with your default browser, then hide the window before you see it. All sony has to do is put the tracking information in the URL and submit it, bypassing zonealarm."

    All you do is when you install a suspicious application, you close of ALL access via the firewall, and then you see what tries to connect via sniffers or firewall logs. If you see the iexplore.exe is unexpectedly trying to connect to a certain IP, then you ban that IP and then open up access to trusted applications again.

  • Re:zone alarm (Score:2, Informative)

    by Eccles ( 932 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @11:02AM (#4039399) Journal
    hope you dont allow web browsers to get through zonealarm. As it has been shown before, a program can open a URL with your default browser

    That's why I've left Netscape 4 as my default browser. Anything that tries to start a URL triggers the Netscape login screen, and I just exit from that. Highly recommended...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09, 2002 @11:18AM (#4039501)
    i somehow doubt sony is about to invest the amount of money required to make this product communicate using public key infrastructures. Not to meantion but there are weaknesses in anything the client can see

    if i decompile the program and get a general idea of how its working you can find vulnerabilities. Now given that the data is almost always predictable in this setting the only way to screw it up is to throw in random data, a timestamp etc and make the client check for that.

    Somewhere in the decompiled code has to be a compare of this value to the expected values. Just make that condition always true and your whole pk crap just goes out the window... Who cares if you cant break the message itself if you can break the application.

    Security through obscurity whoohoo!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 09, 2002 @11:35AM (#4039617)
    Let's all remember that the DMCA is a law specifying that circumvention of encryption in order to access copyrighted material is a crime.

    1. Blocking network traffic has nothing to do with bypassing or circumventing encryption.

    2. You can't "circumvent" the DMCA, you can only violate it.
  • by PainKilleR-CE ( 597083 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @11:49AM (#4039709)
    Funny, but I always thought of Sony, et. al. as *CONSUMER* electronics companies, not slack-jawed Yes Men for the Hollywood Mafia.


    Sony is the Tokyo branch [sonypictures.com] of the Hollywood Mafia (MPAA's board of directors list on their 'about' page has Sony listed right after Disney). As an added bonus, the name Sony appears no less than 10 times on the RIAA membership list, without even counting the sub-labels that don't carry the Sony name, but are still wholly owned by Sony.
  • by Entropy_ah ( 19070 ) on Friday August 09, 2002 @02:00PM (#4040737) Homepage Journal
    This is a myth. The X-Box is the only modern console (X-Box, PS2, Gamecube) that looses money on every unit sold.

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