European Digital Rights Launched

felix.rauch writes "A new organization in Europe has been founded by 10 privacy and civil rights organizations from 7 different countries in the European Union. Members of EDRi will work together informing decision makers and the public about the upcoming threats to our privacy and civil rights. Good to hear that something good happens in these tough times for privacy and civil rights..."

Where have all the flowers gone?

[ObviousGuy]

Good to hear that something good happens in these tough times for privacy and civil rights...

Kum ba ya, my Gnu... Kum ba ya...

Amazing!

[gartogg]

This new organization is composed of (among others):
Chaos Computer Club, the internationally famous cracking society, one of the leaders in The ideals of Ethical Hacking.
Privacy International, An international group that researches and acts on Human Rights issues regarding privacy.
Quintessenz, a group that espouses the open source software model, and privacy rights.
VIBE!AT another Privacy/Linux group.

Is it just me, or does it seem like privacy is a fringe cause in Europe? Not a single large organization like America's EFF actually does anything in Europe! Correect me if I'm wrong here, but isn't this too little, too late?

Re:Amazing!

[RAMMS+EIN]

I think that, in general, awareness of what's going on at the European level is very low among EU-citizens. People tend to be more concerned with what their state gov't decides, and media coverage of EU-wide issues is extremely lacking. And then, Europeans tend to be less concerned about freedom because we have more of it! :-p

Re:Amazing!

[gartogg]

Do you really beleive that Europeans have MORE freedoms? Like the right to bear arms?

Re:Amazing!

[gfim]

That's one thing that most Yanks that I've met just don't understand. Most people don't want the right to bear arms. It's not something that's inflicted on them - it's something that they deliberately elect.

Graham

Re:Amazing!

[gartogg]

I don't want to have the right to own a .22 rifle. I want the right to own crew manned weaponry, such as apache helicopters, f-16's and nuclear submarines, suitable for military overthrow of the government, becuase if a situation should arise, overthrow of the government could be a good thing. (That is what the framers intended.)

PS I mean, who doesn't want a black hawk helicopter to get to work in...

And about time

[lay]

It will be rather scarry if Europe adopts a stance like that. At least the American government can't do whatever they please whenever they like.

In Europe people tend to be a bit more critical towards the govenment's actions, let's see if it's realy important.