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Font Company Wielding DMCA Against Bit-Flipping 429

Roundeye writes: "Seems that AGFA Monotype is trying to stop Tom Murphy from distributing his embed tool. According to the lawyers, the pair of bits in a TrueType font which specify how a font should be embedded constitute a DMCA-worthy access control device. Tom's standing up to them because, 'Embedding bits do nothing to keep consumers from copying fonts' and 'Since the enactment of the DMCA, I have only ever run embed on fonts for which I own the copyright." He's even got his own haiku version of the software..."
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  • by antistuff ( 233076 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:36PM (#3446366) Homepage
    Go to court and try to win this one. This case is even more riduculous than the others, and if it goes to court there is a good chance that it might get the DMCA struck down. Then of course it might just get thrown out because he isn't really violating the DMCA. But either way he shouldn't back down from it.
    • Not overturn (Score:4, Insightful)

      by www.sorehands.com ( 142825 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:42PM (#3446411) Homepage
      Usually a court will not overturn a law, and will not in this case. The court will make a ruling on how to determine what is "A technological measure "effectively controls access to a work"


      Is with the CDA, the entire law was not thrown out, just the parts that were questioned and found unconstitutional.

      For any real effect, the trial court ruling has to be reviewed by an appeals court.

      • The DMCA will *Not* be turned over because of this case. I think he has a good chance of winning. He isn't contesting the constitutionality of the DMCA. He's claiming that it isn't covered by it because the bits aren't strictly for 'copy controls' as defined by the DMCA.

        If he loses, I'll be sorely disappointed. The tool shouldn't be censored because it could possible be used to break the law. That's like outlawing guns because someone might get shot!
        • Newsflash! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by kaladorn ( 514293 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:51PM (#3446889) Homepage Journal
          That's like outlawing guns because someone might get shot!

          Isn't that what they've been doing gradually for the past few years now?
    • Go to court and try to win this one.

      Put your money where your mouth is. Download the program and mirror it on your own site.

  • Unspecified bit... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by chill ( 34294 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:37PM (#3446373) Journal
    Soon any "undefined/future use" bits on a devices will be retroactively defined as access/copyright control and used as an excuse to sue thru DMCA.

    Sad.
    • by ackthpt ( 218170 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:01PM (#3446557) Homepage Journal
      ATM, however, nothing bars a good old fashioned C & D letter [chillingeffects.org] hinting at something in the DMCA or any other arcane law.
    • by jmv ( 93421 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:05PM (#3446581) Homepage
      You're bringing up a good point. Then if "undefined/future use" bits can be used retroactively, nothing prevents currently used bits to be "redefined with an added meaning". Then if that holds in count, that could mean that DMCA = "all generic hex/text editors/viewers would be illegal under the DMCA".

      Although that could be interesting in the other way. If notepad can be used to change an "access control byte", it should be illegal too... so would all software... all computers... all ***stack overflow, brain dumped.
      • by statusbar ( 314703 ) <jeffk@statusbar.com> on Thursday May 02, 2002 @12:00AM (#3448263) Homepage Journal

        Who would have thought that Richard Stallman was correct all these years regarding free-as-in-speech software? How many of you just thought he was a paranoid lunatic?

        From The Right To Read: [gnu.org]

        • Dan would later learn that there was a time when anyone could have debugging tools. There were even free debugging tools available on CD or downloadable over the net. But ordinary users started using them to bypass copyright monitors, and eventually a judge ruled that this had become their principal use in actual practice. This meant they were illegal; the debuggers' developers were sent to prison.
        • ... In 2047, Frank was in prison, not for pirate reading, but for possessing a debugger.

        --Jeff++
  • Maybe next Microsoft will say that any OS that users a username/password scheme for security is infringing upon their copyrighted access control schemes and thus violating the law too?

    When will the madness end? It is good to see people like Tom standing up to the man.

    Gee, I hope I didn't give Billie Boy Gates any ideas here.
  • This really sucks (Score:3, Insightful)

    by billcopc ( 196330 ) <vrillco@yahoo.com> on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:38PM (#3446382) Homepage
    The very sucky part about this thing is that fonts aren't exactly the kind of thing you see in warez groups. The people who do use Embed (and I have) are the ones who really need it for their work, in my case it's creating electronic documents (PDF or Corel Envoy) to send off to whomever needs this or that report within the organisation.

    If the font doesn't follow the document, you can sure bet that important CEO-type dude will see a bunch of disproportioned junk because the tech people haven't touched his workstation since 1995. "Ooh look! I'm an evil font-embedding whore!"

    The big piss about this case is that the only people who understand the issue, aren't going to be the ones making the legal decisions (as usual).

    • I don't think I ever seen a fontz site. I guess Tom is part of a rare breed of font crackers. Maybe I should join him. I wonder if fontz.ru is available?
    • The people who do use Embed (and I have) are the ones who really need it for their work, in my case it's creating electronic documents (PDF or Corel Envoy) to send off to whomever needs this or that report within the organisation.

      (Cavaets: I used to work for Goss and Varityper, and am well informed about the history of electronic-font theft by printing houses and the older copyright law surrounding fonts. I do not claim to be up-to-date on all aspects of modern font copyright. IANAL -- I Am Not A Lawyer.)

      Case law following the 1972 copyright changes made it clear that the actual letter shapes are not subject to copyright, and a cursory look at the various amendments to the Copyright Acts since 1992 indicate there has been no statuary change in this area. What is protected by copyright is the digital description of a font -- the electronic file. The contents of such files go beyond the description of how to draw the character; it also includes information concerning the placement of characters in relation to other characters, sizing information, and "hints" as to how to modify the rendering as you change size, among other things.

      What a lot of people tend to forget is that the name of a font is protected by trademark law. That's why Apple used place-names for a number of its in-house-developed fonts, and why "Helvetica", "Swiss", "Ariel", and "Megaron" appears to be synonyms for essentially the same typeface. They are. The difference between the fonts they name is the source of the font.

      So, by using "Helvetica" in your document, a trademark, you are acknowledging the source of the font. Helvetica is a registered trademark of Linotype-Hell AG and/or its subsidiaries. Adobe, for example, licenses the face from Linotype-Hell, and is most likely required by that license to limit distribution of the outline files to people who have paid for a license to use.

      If your license for the font "Helvetica" does not include the right to embed the font in Portable Document Format files, then you are guilty of copyright infringement.

      Unfortunately, the embedding of the outline information in a PDF does not meet the tests for fair use. Others have listed the requirements in this discussion; I leave it to you, Dear Reader, to apply the tests and see how they fail.

      The DMCA implications of "embed" is, frankly, just icing on the cake. At the base of the problem is copyright infringement, and the unjust enrichment that comes from the infringement. One person made it clear that he "needs" to embed fonts to ensure that the correct outline, kerning, and master-modification information is used when reading the document, or the result is a "mis-proportioned document" that looks ugly. The person derives a financial benefit from embedding fonts, and this can be viewed in court as "enrichment." By exceeding the boundaries imposed by the font license, s/he is profiting from the copyrighted work of another. The fact that the infringement is internal to an organization is of little weight, as the company may be the one considered guilty of the infringement, not the individual, if the copyright holder can show that the infringer is working within the scope of his/her employment.

      The argument that there is no copyright infringement when the document is printed on paper, and therefore there can be no infringement because PDF is "like paper," isn't going to hold up in court. The problem is that the letterform itself is not subject to copyright, and the version of the type on paper is the letterform. Contrast this to the version of the letterform in the electronic PDF document is in its original copyrighted form. If the PDF document were to be in the form of a compressed pixel map, like a fax, then there would be no infringement because the copyrighted work would not be embedded in the electronic document. Unfortunately, such a pixel map, even heavily compressed, would be considerably larger than the desired PDF form, and the resolution of the resulting document would be fixed at the one used to render the page.

      This suggests one way to avoid infringement: render the document as an image. It meets most of the original requirements, although the resulting file will be bloated. Because the outline file is not distributed in any way, there is no copying, therefore no copyright infringement. For purely inside distribution over a fast LAN, the bloat issue isn't as much of a problem. Mail servers may need to be upgraded to deal with the larger file sizes, but with the cost of mass storage plummeting the delta shouldn't be painful at all. It's definitely cheaper than lawyers and lawsuits and damages.

      The more direct path to avoid infringement is for that person needs to enter into a license with the original holder of the copyright for each typeface s/he uses to specifically permit embedding those fonts s/he uses into PDFs. There may be a license fee per font to do so -- this is a good thing, to reduce file bloat from too many font outline files, not to mention the cleaner documents that will result from reducing font clutter. If there is a distinct business necessity to use specific, copyrighted type faces, the cost of entering into a license agreement should be tolerable. After all, type foundries are in business to sell type, not to bleed customers dry. For that reason, shop around. Every type house/foundry has their versions of a Times newspaper face, a san-serif block face [Helvetica/Swiss/Megaron/&c], a mono-spaced typewriter face, and useful display faces, and their licensing requirements may be more in line with your needs than what Linotype offers. That's competition.

      Don't like paying cash for the right to use a letterform? The shapes of the letterforms are not subject to copyright. There is nothing I'm aware of that says you can't print a font, letter by letter, scan the printed pages, and encode them into your own font outline file using any of the many font development packages available. Then you can embed to your heart's content. (Check with a competent intellectual property attorney before doing this.) Don't forget to use your own completely made-up name for the resulting font outline.

      For those not willing to put in that kind of time, there is yet another alternative: investigate other type face sources. Donald Knuth has designed a number of faces, originally rendered in Metafont, which are available as Postscript type faces. [ams.org] They are quite pleasant to the eye, and are very readable. Another source of potential type faces is the X Consortium, although I would check the license regarding typeface use outside of the X environment. A Google search showed there are a number of people who have contributed type faces to the public domain, as well as providing faces in a shareware distribution format.

      There's no excuse for copyright infringement.

  • Fontographer (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ZiZ ( 564727 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:40PM (#3446400) Homepage
    He used Fontographer to create these fonts, a program which allows you to (while editing a font) set or reset the embedding bits. Does this imply that, under the DMCA, any (nominally) legal content-creation program can be ruled unlawful if it has the ability to read a file instead of merely write a file?

    Say goodbye to saving your work in the middle and coming back to it. Say goodbye, potentially, to backup software, since adding registry keys post-installation may be involved in copy control, and backup software would bypass that. Say goodbye to...well...computers. (Not that this hasn't been said before elsewhere, but...)

    • I'm not familiar with Fontographer or its exact function, but it seems, from his writing, that 'Fontographer' lets you change the bits just like his 'embed' program -- he just wrote it to avoid going into the full Fontographer program just to change some simple bits...

      So shouldn't they go after Fontographer as well?

      Similar to how most/all "professional" DAT/CD recorders will ignore any copy protection bits on a audio stream... are those DMCA violations too?
    • by Tom7 ( 102298 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:06PM (#3446585) Homepage Journal
      Probably not. A device has to be primarily designed for the purpose of circumvention, or marketed for circumvention.

      Most importantly, though, "circumvention" only occurs if it is done without the authority of the copyright holder. If a format is open, and therefore many people (including the author of the program, perhaps) have reason to modify their works with the program, they of course have authority -- so it would be hard to argue that the device is designed "primarily" for circumvention. That's my main argument for this Embed thing.

      Perhaps that is the real downfall of the DMCA...?
      • "A device has to be primarily designed for the purpose of circumvention, or marketed for circumvention."

        So... if I happened to write, say, code to drive a coffee machine [tldp.org], but it also happened to have 'features' to crack e-book encryption and add the ability to embed fonts, it would be OK? :)

        It's primary purpose would be, after all, to make me some java. =)

        - Jester
        • Lawyers don't think like geeks. Unless the e-book cracking code was somehow important to its primary function, I don't think your argument would hold much coffee.

          OTOH, decss and livid have a better argument. If the primary purpose is to enable you to back up your DVDs or play your DVDs (which, we assume, are both "fair use") then any hypothetical piracy uses they may have as a consequence of performing their primary function are not DMCA-infringing.

          The same would go with an editing/creation program which allowed import of copyrighted material (e.g. an e-book editor). Its primary purpose is to create content and modify your created content. The fact that it may let you import and modify someone else's content is a side-effect.

      • If there are a number of such programs (not designed primarily for circumvention, but nonetheless contain "circumvention" features as a small part of their total feature set), then those bits don't "effectively control access to a work". So neither set of programs should be ruled illegal.
  • It would be kind of fun to mirror Tom's program and source all over the web just to mess with these idiots who are trying to stop him. I wonder if he would mind.
    • Re:mirror? (Score:4, Informative)

      by larry bagina ( 561269 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:54PM (#3446502) Journal
      It's public domain. He obviously doesn't mind

      /*
      * This program is for setting TTF files to Installable Embedding mode.
      *
      * Note that using this to embed fonts which you are not licensed to embed
      * does not make it legal.
      *
      * This code was written by Tom Murphy 7, and is public domain. Use at your
      * own risk...
      */
      #include <stdio.h>
      #include <stdlib.h>

      void fatal();

      int main (int argc, char**argv) {
      FILE * inways;
      if (argc != 2)
      printf("Usage: %s font.ttf\n\nPublic Domain software by Tom 7. Use at your own risk.\n",argv[0]);
      else if (inways = fopen(argv[1],"rb+")) {
      int a,x;
      char type[5];
      type[4]=0;
      fseek(inways,12,0);
      for (;;) {
      for (x=0;x<4;x++) if (EOF == (type[x] = getc(inways))) fatal();
      if (!strcmp(type,"OS/2")) {
      int length;
      unsigned long loc, fstype, sum=0;
      loc=ftell(inways); /* location for checksum */
      for (x=4;x--;) if (EOF == getc(inways)) fatal();
      fstype = fgetc(inways) << 24;
      fstype |= fgetc(inways) << 16;
      fstype |= fgetc(inways) << 8 ;
      fstype |= fgetc(inways) ;
      length = fgetc(inways) << 24;
      length |= fgetc(inways) << 16;
      length |= fgetc(inways) << 8 ;
      length |= fgetc(inways) ;
      /* printf("fstype: %d length: %d\n",fstype,length);*/
      if (fseek(inways,fstype+8,0)) fatal();
      fputc(0,inways);
      fputc(0,inways);
      fseek(inways,fstype,0);
      for (x=length;x--;)
      sum += fgetc(inways);
      fseek(inways,loc,0); /* write checksum */
      fputc(sum>>24,inways);
      fputc(255&(sum>>16),inways);
      fputc(255&(sum>>8), inways);
      fputc(255&sum , inways);
      fclose(inways);
      exit(0);
      }
      for (x=12;x--;) if (EOF == getc(inways)) fatal();
      }

      } else
      printf("I wasn't able to open the file %s.\n", argv[1]);
      }

      void fatal() { fprintf(stderr,"Malformed TTF file.\n");
      exit(-1); }
    • Re:mirror? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Tom7 ( 102298 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:09PM (#3446599) Homepage Journal
      I don't mind. It's also in the public domain, so I can't stop you.
      But, it's important that you are not acting in concert with me -- your actions are independent. (That also of course makes it harder for them to use legal measures to get it taken down.)

      Writing new programs that do the same thing would also make it quite annoying for them...
      • Re:mirror? (Score:3, Funny)

        by Jester998 ( 156179 )
        "Writing new programs that do the same thing would also make it quite annoying for them..."

        Hmm.... first person to write an implementation in Brainfuck [muppetlabs.com] gets a cookie. :)
  • by shepd ( 155729 ) <slashdot.org@gmai l . c om> on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:42PM (#3446413) Homepage Journal
    Non-Parity memory outlawed due to the risk of alpha particles bit flipping true-type fonts!
    • by steve_l ( 109732 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:47PM (#3446451) Homepage
      also, Ansi C++ 2002 draft released; xor "^" opcode removed after DMCA threats due to its potential use in bit-flipping and decryption algorithms. Future versions of the x86 product line will be changed to make the xor opcode a ring-0 instruction only, not for use by unapproved applications.
      • For each bit in x,
        Flip y's identical bit
        Where x's bit is one.

        If he wins, the legal precedent could be : "If the algorythm is simple enough to express as a haiku, it is protected speech and not a computer process."
  • by pgrote ( 68235 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:43PM (#3446417) Homepage
    This raises a great point about the DCMA. If I have a company that produces a tool to help me create products I am ok. Now, if my tool is used by others to circumvent what they call protection am I liable?

    In this case preventing someone from embedding a font doesn't protect the font. The font can easily be included with the document. This is nuts.

    The embedding bits were orginally designed to make things easier for people to *distribute* fonts, not impede the distribution.

    Check out this from Microsoft:

    http://www.microsoft.com/typography/embed/embed2 .h tm

    The best quote:

    "Most foundries and type designers set the embedding level of their fonts to Editable embedding allowed or Print & Preview embedding allowed. However, a few foundries set the embedding level to No embedding allowed. If you feel that embedding technology has a place within your organization, be sure to ask the type vendor about it before you part with any money."
  • by Anonymous Coward
    a hex editor.

    This poster's name secretly replaced with Folgers Crystals
  • There's 1 bit in the font that says "please don't allow anyone to copy me?"

    Dumb.
    • This is a good thing. That is the most trivial kind of "access control" possible, so it will be interesting if this is actually where this copyright fight is going.
    • by Chris Burke ( 6130 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @07:11PM (#3447050) Homepage
      Isn't it ridiculous? This supposed "access control" is nothing if it isn't honored. It's like when a mime is trapped in a box. The mime is only trapped in the box so long as he continues to pretend that there is a box he's trapped in. If the mime gets bored and wants to leave, he doesn't 'circumvent' the box, he just stops prentending it exists.

      Or it's like I put up a sign in front of my house that says "Property surrounded by impenetrable force field". If someone ignores the sign, I may be able to accuse them of trespassing, but I sure as hell couldn't accuse them of breaking and entering because they had to break through my forcefield to trespass! Well, I could, but I'd be branded a looney the moment the words left my mouth. I can only -hope- something similar happens here.
  • by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:45PM (#3446428) Homepage Journal
    They have a web form you can fil out here:

    AGFA's Web form [agfamonotype.com].

    When they get bombarded with emails, they'll know that they're under the public eye. If this goes to court, I may be willing to donate a few dollars to assist ith legal fees.
    • They have a web form [agfamonotype.com] you can fil out here:

      I recently read about your harrassment of Tom Murphy, the young graphic designer at Carnegei Mellon University.

      Frankly the attempts of large companies to usurp the rights of the rest of us disgusting.

      Let me strongly urge you to issue a full, public apology to Mr Murphy.

      • This is what I submitted:

        Dear Sir/Madam,

        Please compliment your legal department on their extraordinary talent towards directing bad publicity towards their company. Please see [http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~twm/embed/dmca.html] and [http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/01/20262 34&mode=nested] for more information. Previously, Agfa was a font foundry not many technically savvy folk cared a rat's arse about (since your primary customer base is more in the graphic/DTP design industry); now you are on the radar of every free thinker (and there are several) in (and out of) the tech industry across the US.

        The DMCA is bad law and I have no doubt that this case will follow the previous DeCSS and Adobe cases in garnering gobs of publicity -- bad publicity -- for Agfa.

        Incidentally, it will also make people who would never visit a rather obscure page at CMU, realize that fonts *can* be embedded, and for free. I for sure would not have heard of the possibility if it were not for your sharp-snouted legal eagles.

        Also, please assure yourself that the resulting stink will bring the whole issue of Free fonts (both in the libre and gratuite connotations, see [http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html] for more) onto the radar of the worthies at the EFF and the FSF, and you may soon expect (along with several software companies) to see their revenue streams being attacked at the low end by free, high-quality articles created by amateur suppliers -- some of them studying in the best art and design schools in the country.

        Please congratulate yourself for adding one very determined -- and hydra-headed -- competitor to your roster.

        And yes, should the need for buying fonts ever arise for me, I shall make sure, that none of the fonts I buy -- as an individual and a independently working professional -- shall be from Agfa. Please sleep well knowing you have lost one customer and lost the goodwill of undoubtedly thousands others -- until you make a full, unreserved and public apology to Mr Murphy.

        Yours Sincerely,
  • Sue them. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Jayjay75 ( 468973 )
    Agfa Monotype, per their own Web site, came about in 1998 when "Monotype® Typography [was] acquired by Agfa Corporation in 1998...". You wrote embed in 1997. So sue them.
  • Simple Program! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MutantEnemy ( 545783 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:47PM (#3446454) Homepage
    For those who haven't read the article, and think that the author of the program has made some complex circumvention device, here's a haiku description of the program from the author's webpage:

    The OS/2 chunk
    has a bit for embedding.
    Set it to zero.

  • I read the letters (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SkyLeach ( 188871 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:48PM (#3446456) Homepage
    And I must say, they do have a case.

    The DMCA was designed to give "The Monotype Corporation, International Typeface Corporation, and Agfa Monotype Corporation" the right to sue over this.

    It's sad, and complete BS, but they do have a case. The tool was written to assist font designers create free fonts, but it also, purely accidentally, violates the DMCA.

    I really am interested to see what happens in this case because it's a perfect example of what happens when you give unmoderated power to an entity with no morals whatsoever (a corporation).
    • Your reading is wrong. The DMCA text has a number of exceptions; it simply doesn't apply here.

    • by Tom7 ( 102298 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:01PM (#3446560) Homepage Journal
      Did you read my response?

      In order for embed to be covered by the DMCA, the program has to be primarily designed for circumvention. Circumvention only occurs when the act is without the authority of the copyright holder. In this case, I am the copyright holder, so of course I grant myself authority to modify the bits!

      (There are several other reasons why their argument doesn't hold that I give, but this is the strongest...) I think their legal argument is faulty.
      • Yes, I read your response.

        You have a very good point, and if I were a judge, I would probably find in your favor. But IANAJ :-).

        The case hinges on the questions of "Are those bits used to enforce copywrite?" and if so: "Is this program written to change those bits?" Once those two questions have been answered, there is a third question which is, IMO, the most interesting: "Does setting bits on a file on your computer which you rightfully own constitue a DMCA volation of the rights of the copywrite holder of the product." If you are using the program to change bits on fonts you own, then no. If the program is being used by people everywhere to embed fonts which the rightful owners have tried to prevent embeding with, then the answer is Yes.

        If people can copy fonts without using your program then you're program isn't guilty of the piracy clause. If they are using your program to embed fonts which they obtained illegally, then you might be found guilty of a DMCA violation under the non-piracy clauses governing fair use. Let's say their EULA states that they can't embed fonts, and they use your program to embed them anyhow.

        I know this is all speculation, but lawyers have a knack for finding corraborating evidence for this kind of stuff.

        Now back to my argument: they have a case. It's not an open-and-shut case by any means, but it can be argued and it probably would go to trial if brought before a magistrate.
  • by Tom7 ( 102298 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:48PM (#3446457) Homepage Journal
    Well, I didn't really want this to get onto slashdot unless they threatened me any more, but, I guess I can't control the internet. ;)

    Anyway, in case you're curious, I've been pushing their buttons a little bit, with the help of Dave Touretzky [cmu.edu] , and my current guess is that they have given up on me. (I haven't heard back since the letter I sent them that's on that page.) But I will be happy to go to court over this retarded case, and the EFF has informally offered to help if I do. ( Donate! [eff.org] )

    In case you're interested, my fonts, which I've been making since 1993 (and which are free for you to use for practically anything) are at fonts.tom7.com [tom7.com] .

    • I don't know Dave but I know his writing. Good man Dave.

      Non carborundum illigimatus Tom.

      ... --- ...

      The above message is digitally encoded. Use of any software or device to decode it is in violation of the DMCA. We'll be around to suck out your illegal brain later.

      KFG
  • OFFS (Score:5, Funny)

    by mizhi ( 186984 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:48PM (#3446463)
    Oh For Fuck's Sake.

    What about hex-editors then?

    What about sed? I'll be you could come up with a nifty program to twiddle some bits in the same manner.

    And for those lawyers, I've got a couple of bits they can twiddle; my balls.

    I hope Tom wins.
  • by Eric Seppanen ( 79060 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:50PM (#3446470)
    1. The code is ridiculously simple (perhaps a hundred lines of C) and compiles and works perfectly under Linux with a minor fix to the #includes.

    2. Non-embeddable fonts will prevent you from creating a PDF file that is portable and will display correctly, if you're using Adobe software (Acrobat Distiller). This program can fix the problem. (hmm. Significant noninfringing use?)

    3. There's a lot of free fonts out there that, through accident or omission, have the "don't embed" bits set. So there's a significant number of fonts where the author did not intend to limit the ability to distribute the font, yet these stupid bits (more correctly, stupid font-creation software that turns them on by default) are interfering with use of fonts as intended.

  • Timing? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Kraegar ( 565221 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:51PM (#3446478)
    I'm not big on law info, so I must raise the following question...

    Tom wrote "embed" in 1997, as stated in his emails. DMCA went into the books in 1998. So he wrote the program before the law even existed... How can you break a law before it's a law?

    This guy has some really good points, this just appears to be another case of a corporation using the vaguely worded DMCA to try and push someone around. How's that saying go? "If you can't make a good product, sue someone that has"?

    • Still Illegal (Score:2, Insightful)

      by TheTwoBest ( 317203 )
      Nope, its still illegal. Creating the software is not illigal, but once the law was passed (according to the complaintant) the software now violates the law and becomes illegal. So as long as he stops distributing/using the software after it has been deemed illegal, he is doing nothing wrong.
    • DMCA covers distribution as well as creation of circumvention devices. So you're right-- he can't be charged with violating the DMCA based on creating the program, but he can be charged for post-1998 distrubution violations.
  • Everytime we see an example of the little guy getting threatened by the Big Evil, we Slashdotters have an orgy of analysis and in the end do absolutely nothing. Appeals to donate to the EFF are roundly issued but how many bother?

    What Slashdot needs to do is have a Fund set up - basically, an Amazon click-to-pay or PayPal (or both) account setup on the front page. It shoudl be preset for $1 donations. Every time we have a YRO post on slashdot frontpage, the donate buttons shoudl be inserted into the comments page.

    The idea is, make it EASY to donate, makie it quick, make the links impossible to miss and always appear in correct context. If I had such a link infront of me right now I'd click it.

    Every time we see a case like this, we set up a fund and channel funds to the poor guy. And maybe Slashdot could channel a matching percentage to the EFF as a donation from teh advertising revenue.

    There has to be a way to leverage the huge community numbers here into actual tangible pressure - and money is the best way.
    • There was a post 4 minutes before yours that gave the very obvious EFF donation link, hrm.
    • Yeah... it's what usually 600-800 replies for these hysterical DMCA threads? Let's say 10% will hit that "donate $1" button (probably highly unlikely), that gives you $80. Yeah, AGFA is running scared.
      • Yeah... it's what usually 600-800 replies for these hysterical DMCA threads? Let's say 10% will hit that "donate $1" button (probably highly unlikely), that gives you $80.

        Not everybody who reads comments posts a comment, and only half of Slashdot's readers ever hit comments.pl at all.

        I'd love to slashdot the credit card company.

    • Everytime we see an example of the little guy getting threatened by the Big Evil, we Slashdotters have an orgy of analysis and in the end do absolutely nothing. Appeals to donate to the EFF are roundly issued but how many bother?

      Doesn't your first statement assume the answer to the question in the second sentence? That said, I think giving to the EFF is a good idea. I've done it, and I'm sure other slashdoters have, too. Still others have probably done other things to help: publicity, letter writing, petition signing, website defacement, etc.

      Don't assume we've done nothing because it fits your rhetorical arguments.

      I like your quick-donation-link idea, though. Regards

    • Everytime we see an example of the little guy getting threatened by the Big Evil, we Slashdotters have an orgy of analysis and in the end do absolutely nothing.

      I think you're projecting your inadequacies onto the Slashdot crowd, and I don't like it one (flipped) bit (snicker). How do you know what other Slashdotters do in response to any article posted here? You assume that because you have an orgy of analysis and then do nothing, that everybody else does the same. Why don't you get off of YOUR lazy ass and donate, and stop worrying about MY ASS and everyone else's?

      And why should Slashdot do anything to make it easier to donate to any particular cause? The EFF already makes it pretty easy, and anyone who was inclined to donate knows where to look to discover where to send the money.
  • by 1029 ( 571223 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:53PM (#3446492) Homepage Journal
    The lawyers went on to say: "By reading this notice you have looked upon copyrighted fonts. Take this rusty spoon, and with it gouge out your eyes, as they are a circumvention device. They have made unauthorized copies of our fonts in order to embed the font with other information to be sent to the brain."
    • As computer "intelligence" increases, and the line between artificial and biological "hardware" becomes thinner, this will actually become an issue.

      I was thinking about this before because it seems that human language is very "GPL-ish". People can modify it at will, and generally make available their modifications. And much like a GPL-ed compiler or image editor, the results (poems, books) can still be licensed in a different manner.

      I guess Microsoft should stop using open source language, and instead use a proprietary one they create themselves.
  • In a case like this, where there are only a few bits to "adjust" to achieve desired results, anyone with a little knowhow could just use a hex editor.

    Of course hex editors have "substantial commercially significant use other than circumvention", but lawyers don't seem to care...
    • What do you find in every circumvetion device?

      Well some circumvention devices contain the following:
      1. A data tranfer medium: wires, space, fiber-optics
      2. Data: electrons, photons, magnetized particles.
      3. Algorithms: hardware, software, or just ideas.
      4. A container: metal housing, zip file meta-data.

      Basically what we see here (if we simplify), is that a circumvention device will contain "stuff". So all we need to do is ban all "stuff" as well as any talk of "stuff", and we'll all be safe.
  • by NoMoreNicksLeft ( 516230 ) <john.oyler@ c o m c a st.net> on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:57PM (#3446520) Journal
    Greedy lawyers sue
    judge considers fair use death
    rights flush down toilet
  • by Anonymous Coward
    The threat from their lawyers is a bit on the false side. It looks like their complaint is centered on 17 U.S.C. 1201(a)(1) which has nothing to do with making a tool available. If you were posting hacked versions of their fonts or admitting to changing the "protection" bits on their fonts they would have the start of a case. Fortunatly, your tool doesn't even seem to fall into the "primarily designed" to circumvent a protection measure on a controlled work requirement of 1201(a)(2). If it goes to court, somebody needs a kick.
  • by silentbozo ( 542534 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @05:59PM (#3446540) Journal
    Notice that this is one font company suing another font company (even if he is just one guy) for releasing a tool to enable other users to produce fonts. That you can fiddle with someone else's property is just a side effect of the tool capabilities, in the same way that a VCR can be used to edit your own stuff, or to create the next Phantom Edit.

    I'd call this use of the DMCA anti-competitive, and just plain rude to boot.
  • by mrroot ( 543673 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:00PM (#3446550)
    From this day forward I will not use fonts anymore!!!
  • by Ryu2 ( 89645 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:01PM (#3446561) Homepage Journal
    Check what IP the lawyer uses.

    Use a Apache rewrite rule to serve up a version of the web page without the link to the program, for the lawyer's subnet. :-)

    Solved.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      And when they use another IP to get at the protected content, you can sue them under the DMCA!

      --

      If you want to see history repeated, you need to control the education system - BG saying
  • I hope all of you who complain about the DMCA actually do more than talk about it.


    Contribute to the EFF [eff.org] [eff.org]


    Write the Politicians [congress.org] [congress.org]


    If a decent percent of the hundreds of thousands of people who read slashdot acutally did these things, we might actually make a difference.

  • By the way... (Score:4, Informative)

    by Tom7 ( 102298 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:17PM (#3446641) Homepage Journal
    Here's an interesting tidbit.
    As it turns out, fonts cannot be copyrighted in the US. Only the truetype "programs" that generate them can. (See comp.fonts FAQ [nwalsh.com] .)

    Therefore, it would almost certainly be legal to write a program that takes copyrighted truetype "programs" as input, and produces equivalent programs (that is, they generate the same typeface) that are not copyrighted. It would also need to change the names to avoid trademark infringement. If I did this, and also changed the embedding bit, would that not put me in the clear of any possible DMCA claim?
    • I was wondering about that exact same thing.. in fact I wrote a post asking something similar already..

      I doubt you could blatantly just rename fonts, but I think you'd be in the clear if you looked at the font and made your own version

      From the link..
      However, scalable fonts are, in the opinion of the Copyright Office, computer programs, and as such are copyrightable:

      Aren't all font's basically scalable? I not sure how they decide which fonts are scalable and which aren't.. also how do they call them computer programs?
    • by yerricde ( 125198 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:59PM (#3446965) Homepage Journal
      I am not a lawyer

      Therefore, it would almost certainly be legal to write a program that takes copyrighted truetype "programs" as input, and produces equivalent programs (that is, they generate the same typeface) that are not copyrighted.

      Such a program would have no different legal status from a C preprocessor; a U.S. federal court would probably consider the output to be a derivative work of the input. 17 USC 106 [cornell.edu] gives the copyright owner of a font file a limited exclusive right to prepare derivative works from a copyrighted work.

      • Actually... (Score:3, Informative)

        If the "conversion program" worked by first creating high-resolution bitmaps of the original scalable fonts, and then automatically tracing [sourceforge.net] those bitmaps into a scalable format, then the resulting scalable typeface is judged not to be a derivative work.

        As is said in the comp.fonts FAQ [nwalsh.com]:
        The U.S. Copyright Office holds that a bitmapped font is nothing more than a computerized representation of a typeface, and as such is not copyrightable...
        And thus, anything created from those bitmaps is free of the copyright restrictions on the original font program. Unintuitive, but true!

        This is what explains those "1500 fonts for just $4.99!" CDs that you often see in computer stores. A company can buy up a bunch of copyrighted font programs from major type foundries, create scalable lookalikes by the above process, name them something similar but not identical to the originals, and sell collections of the things. 100% legal under current copyright law.
  • I recommend writing the following persons to voice your complete disgust at AGFA Monotype for their lawyers using such tactics against Mr. Tom Murphy.

    Robert Givens
    President of Agfa Monotype
    robert.givens@agfamonotype.com

    Ira Mirochnick
    Senior Vice-President
    ira.mirochnick@agfamonotype.com

    Steve Kuhlman
    VP Sales & Marketing
    steve.kuhlman@agfamonotype.com

    Mark Larson
    Marketing and Public Relations
    Agfa Monotype Corporation
    985 Busse Road
    Elk Grove, IL 60007-2400
    847-718-0400
    mark.larson@agfamonotype .com

    Vikki Quick
    OEM Product Marketing Manager
    Agfa Monotype Corporation
    200 Ballardvale Street
    Wilmington, MA 01887-1069
    978.284.5926
    vikki.quick@agfamonotype .com
  • by StressedCoder ( 69160 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:23PM (#3446670)
    If Tom wants to make his fonts freely available to others, and uses his software to toggle bits on his fonts, fine.

    But, it clear from comments here that at least some people are using the program to illegally embeed fonts in documents, such as PDFs. And yes, this is illegal. Embeed fonts are a good thing, I like them, but only if I own them and the redistribution rights or can freely do so. This is why default system fonts are so often used for such documents. So that the fonts can be freely passed around.

    Like any other piece of software, font design and typograph requires work to create. And its not drudge labor either, it takes both skill and creative ability. Commerical font houses pay people to create these, and then sell their work. Usually, such fonts are licenses so that people can use them to print paper documents, or view other documents on systems where the owners have also licensed the font. Don't have the font? Buy it or go read something else.

    Using a propitary font on a website, and redistributing it to people looking at your site is piracy, clear and simple. No ifs, ands, or buts.

    The font industry has adopted a very reasonable approach till now. No heavy handed DRM, just a couple of bits and the trust that software will honor them. This is convient for consumers and protects the people who work to create the things we use.

    The DMCA might not be entirely appropriate here, and perhaps the case should be tossed on technicalities. But whatever the non-infringing uses and the authors own utility for the program, the people on slashdot have made it clear that the non-infringing use is pretty marginal to the illegal one.

    A shame. Perhaps the author should look at writting a font editor of his own. One that defaults to free access for new fonts, and allow increasing security, but not granting new permissions on commercial fonts. This is a fair method of handling the problem, one that appears to have previously been used successfully without resorting to more draconian copyright protections.
    • I agree with your point whole heartedly. I think that your point about it being wrong is right on.

      I do not think however that Tom should be responsible for the use of this application. The app he has written is not milicious in nature. It has a very valid legal use, and he states that on his site.

      I don't believe a software vendor has the right to stop him from legally using, and distributing his own creation. I think they need to stop users from using it. In that sense they have an uphill battle I do not envy.

    • By this same argument.. It takes effort to shit if you're constipated... Thus, shit can be an artistic work and should be protected. In fact, 'American Standard' (maker of toilets) should be paying me for the destruction of my artistic work.

      Sorry, but more practically, the 'sweat of the brow' argument has been discounted by the Supreme Court. (See Feist v. Rural Telephone).

      ``In Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service Company, the Supreme Court recently put to rest the "sweat of the brow" doctrine, holding that originality is a sine qua non of copyright law, regardless of the author's efforts in collecting and assembling facts.'' -- http://www.lgu.com/cr38.htm

      IE, the very notion that it takes effort to create a typeface is irrelevant to its copyrightable status. (And, as typefaces are NOT copyrightable, this is moot in any case.)

      The program (a TTF file) that creates a typeface is a protectable entity under copyright, but only because it is creative, not because of the effort put into it.

  • His defense is just lousy.

    'Since the enactment of the DMCA, I have only ever run embed on fonts for which I own the copyright.'

    That puts him in the clear when it comes to traditional copyright laws.. kinda like making a copy of a game for backup purposes only. However, he is freely distributing his prorgam which can be used to circumvent licencing control. This is covered by the DMCA. Just because he is using the system legally doesn't mean others will, and since it's available for the public to use, he's technically in the wrong.

    However, I back him because the DMCA is ridiculous, but he IS breaking its conditions and this case is valid.
  • by Seth Finkelstein ( 90154 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:55PM (#3446929) Homepage Journal
    There's a case discussing single bits and the DMCA. See

    Realnetworks, Inc. v. Streambox, Inc. [uh.edu]

    18. Streambox also argues that the VCR does not violate the DMCA because the Copy Switch that avoids does not "effectively protect" against the unauthorized copying of 12 copyrighted works as required by S 1201(a)(3)(B). Streambox claims this "effective protection is lacking because an enterprising end-user could potentially use other means to record streaming audio content as it is played by the end-user's computer speakers. This argument fails because the Copy Switch, in the ordinary course of its operation when it is on, restricts and limits the ability of people to make perfect digital copies of a copyrighted work. The Copy Switch therefore constitutes a technological measure that effectively protects a copyright owner's rights under section 1201(a)(3)(B).
    Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I do, however, know the DMCA very well, since I've been worried for many years about being sued [sethf.com] under the DMCA for my anticensorware work [anticensorware.com]

    Sig: What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org) [sethf.com]

  • by datastew ( 529152 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:55PM (#3446933)

    For those of you who don't think this really matters...

    There is a right guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States by the words "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged." I see this right as upholding and ensuring the preservation of the other rights guaranteed in the Constitution.

    Any soldier or historian will tell you that effective, non-compromised communication is one of the deciding factors in battles and wars. In a strange twist of fate (or maybe not so strange), the freedom of speech is tied closely to the right to keep and bear arms. Arms will not do a group of determined individuals a lot of good if they don't have an effective non-compromised communication system. Parallels can be drawn between an attack on the people's right to analyze algorithms and an attack on the people's right to keep and bear arms.

    What are they afraid of?

  • by SysKoll ( 48967 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:56PM (#3446943)

    Well, this calls for action. This clueless lawyer is probably going to get an order from a kangaroo court, maybe from Kaplan, the judge who ruled that publishing a link on 2600.org was an act of DVD piracy. If this happens, Tom Murphy is going to face huge legal costs.

    Since this is really bothering me a lot, I went to EFF's site and made a small donation [eff.org]. Come on, do it now! Do something for your rights now!

    If the EFF starts getting donations each time these bozos fling the DMCA around, then maybe they'll understand.

    Do you feel safe? Huh uh. Want to admire the handywork of Lewis Kaplan against your right to put a link (a freakin' link!) into your web site? Feel free to bask in his wisdom [2600.org].

    Got the message? Donate now.

    Hodie mi, cras tibi - Today it's me, tomorrow it's you (famous last words of a Roman dragged to his execution by his tyrannic government.)

    -- SysKoll
  • by Wonko the Sane 42 ( 183562 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:57PM (#3446945)
    Quote:

    DMCA additions to 17 U.S.C. are unconstitutional

    A. Attempting to use the DMCA to restrict dissemination of a computer program is prohibited by the First Amendment, because computer code is protected speech.
    -End Quote-

    I was a policy debator in high school, we actually had a case that used, as far as I can recall, exactly that quote (or at least exactly the same idea). The problem with that article though is that computer *code* may be protected speech, but what the code *does* is not. Which is an extremely important distinction. Something tells me he won't be paying any damages, but if it goes to court, I don't see him being on the winning side.
  • by browser_war_pow ( 100778 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @06:59PM (#3446971) Homepage
    I am probably making a mistake by trusting the slashdot editors since they typically don't edit any posts for clarity, but if the mini-description is true, then what is the point? If someone finds a new way to embed AGFA TT fonts then isn't that financially, a VERY GOOD THING for AGFA? Normally corporate executives are deleriously happy when someone finds a new legitimate use for their products because that creates potential for more customers. Of course since copyright is involved, all logic goes out the window. Copyright companies would rather have power than an ever expanding bottom line and/or relevence in the market; Sony, AGFA, et al would rather be able to wield terrible power over their customers' use of their products than have virtually no power and be almost unable to have production meet demand because their products are so hot.
  • Aladdin foresaw this (Score:5, Informative)

    by Dave Scherer ( 32353 ) on Wednesday May 01, 2002 @07:57PM (#3447333)
    I searched the copyright office's web site for "fonts" and stumbled across this letter:

    http://www.loc.gov/copyright/1201/comments/004.p df

    It's a comment submitted by Aladdin Enterprises (the makers of ghostscript) during the Copyright Office's review of the DMCA two years ago. It addresses almost exactly the current situation:

    "...There is, in fact, a commercially important situation where this is currently the case. A software package called Fontographer is used very widely for creating TrueType font files. A bug in Fontographer causes it to improperly mark the fonts it produces in a way that causes certain other widely used software packages to consider that the font may not be embedded in documents that use the font. This incorrect marking happens by default, contrary to the wishes of the font author. The authors of Fontographer have been unresponsive to users and authors and have not fixed this problem. Thus a situation has been created where the author of the font wishes to allow users to embed it, but users who remove the protection marking (which is extremely simple technically -- it involves changing one easily-located bit in the font) will be in violation of the law."
  • by martin-k ( 99343 ) on Thursday May 02, 2002 @04:33AM (#3449028) Homepage
    As a font producer - www.freefont.de [freefont.de] - for over ten years, I can say one thing: The primary use of this program is to work around a major bug in Fontographer 4.1: It sets the embedding bits wrong for every font you generate -- mind you, not setting the values too relaxed or too restrictive, but just plain wrong.

    This means that none of your fonts (even those created by yourself) can be embedded in PDF.

    So, every font producer probably has written an EMBED-like program for themselves. I know 'cause I've written it twice: Sometime in 1992, but then lost the source code, and again a couple of weeks ago.

    Agfa/ITC/Monotype/Letraset/whateverCorpWeAreGobbli ngUpThisWeek are bullying Tom around for a program which has a predominant legitimate use for every font producer.

    Oh, BTW, Macromedia will never fix the endless amount of bugs in Fontographer. Development is on hold, the last version was published eight years ago. Click here [google.com] for my take on this.

    -Martin

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