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PetsWarehouse vs. Mailing List 643

klaun writes "Salon is running a story about a federal suit against members of an Internet mailing list. Seems a company got a bad review on the list and the owner sued the person that said it and everyone who agreed. But the case grew bigger from there, including a suit against the legal defense fund set up to support members of the list being sued and anyone who linked to the defense fund. The ultimate rub of it all is that it basically worked. Most of the defendants have settled." This is a truly bizarre story.
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PetsWarehouse vs. Mailing List

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  • by josquint ( 193951 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:12PM (#3284985) Homepage
    ... now they have to make money using their legal departments?

    someday they'll hafta make profit the old fashioned way... sell a good/service that ppl want at a decent price...
  • It's called the Rambus Maneuver.
  • by TheMonkeyDepartment ( 413269 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:15PM (#3285014)
    I hate to stir up more trouble, but it is my opinion that PetsWarehouse are a bunch of child molesting, cocaine distributing, AIDS-infected Satanists who routinely butcher small puppies and kittens in worship of the Dark Lord. Robert Novak is best friends with Gary Condit and he helped pull out Chandra Levy's teeth with a pair of pliers.

    You are welcome to post your agreement below.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:17PM (#3285028)
    This post is libelous against my company. I will be seeing you in court. Anyone else want to try??
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:23PM (#3285060)
    Hey Novak... come sue me! Its the little people like you that evolution should have gotten rid of long ago. Trying to silence people's opinions about how much your company sucks is going against the ideals of our country. USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USA Forever!

    Come shut me up! Don't buy for petSWEARhouse cause if you do you'll be sure to swear! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  • by SirSlud ( 67381 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:26PM (#3285098) Homepage
    As the webmaster and CEO of statistis.com, I am hereby bringing to your attention my intention to sue the pants off your libelious ass.

    Satan can not effectively and profitably doom souls and turn humanity to the evils of sin in a community where sladerous remarks can confuse consumers and associate his practices with those of the ill reputed petswarehouse.com.

    Expect a call from my lawyer, Satan. (not that his choice of earthly career should be a surprise at this point ;)
  • by wiredog ( 43288 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:28PM (#3285120) Journal
    $666.66/hour.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:30PM (#3285135)
    Please cease and desist from defaming The Church Of Scientology® on this public forum. If your message is not removed with in 24 hours, our attornies shall pursue this matter further in court. This is your only warning.
  • by mckeowbc ( 513776 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:32PM (#3285155) Homepage
    /. and salon.com have now been sued for reporting the story of the suit against the people that bitched about Pets Warehouse.

    Oh...crap...now I'll probably get sued for making a joke about them suing /. Crap. Oh well.
  • by ConceptJunkie ( 24823 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:36PM (#3285184) Homepage Journal
    ...and they're all Scientologists!

  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:39PM (#3285202)


    > Hell, where's the DoJ nailing this bastard for violation of civil liberties?

    Can't do that -- all their resources are tied up defending Micorsoft right now.

  • by dattaway ( 3088 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:39PM (#3285207) Homepage Journal
    uh oh... You just had to reveal they were Scientologists... Now we are all in trouble! Let the picketing wars begin!
  • by BigJim.fr ( 40893 ) <jim@liotier.org> on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:44PM (#3285250) Homepage

    I agree : everyone should know that Robert Novak is performing gruesome experiments involving duct tape and small rodents, infecting baby animals with various assorted viruses before shipping them to unsuspecting american youths, selling pools specially fitted for seal clubbing contests, and selling aquarium rocks that are in fact the bones that remain from their daily slaughter of cute fury critters that they eviscerate before eating their still beating heart.

    And they are terrorists (but then, who isn't these days...).

    petSWEARhouse, buy from them and you'll be swearing!

  • tragic... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Mysticalfruit ( 533341 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:47PM (#3285273) Homepage Journal
    This is yet another nail in the coffin of free speech. I guess I'm gonna have to write a parser that I feed all my comments through...

    I can see it now...

    Jutkers News Service:
    In a ruling today, the federal supreme court ruled that opinions are now all illegal. The justices were split, with half saying "I'm not prepared to issue a statement at this time that might be construded as something libel" the other justices had this to say reading from a prepared statement. "Citizens who engage in 'opinions' now must be ready to be held accountable for those 'opinions' in a court of law. The willy-nilly saying what you think will only bring you trouble. They should keep their mouths shut and enjoy the free open society they are lucky to have"

    A press conference that was held later, the justices were asked what they thought this meant for free speech. Their response, reading from a prepared statement "Free speech isn't so free anymore... people just opening their mouths is bad business. If any person can just go out and do 'free speech' stuff including opinions and observations, what kind of world would we live in. Companies spend millions on marketing campaigns just so some person can go on a website and say 'I had bad service' thus ruining millions of dollars of advertising. Suddenly that free speech isn't so cheap anymore. What happens when that company goes out of business and all those people lose there jobs! Don't you see, by that person opening their mouth once it ruined a whole company"

    The reporter countered asking "What if the company really had bad service?" Justice millhouse responded slowly, reading through a couple of pages. "It has been our observation that businesses never treat a customer poorly, because it would be bad business. If someone has bad service, they've brought it upon themselves, and they are to blame."

    Pretty much the rest of the press conference went on with the same thing. I'd like to comment more on this but I feel my opinions would land me in a lawsuit, or worse jail.

    God Bless America, the home of the free and brave...
  • by Threed ( 886 ) <nowhereNO@SPAMatall.com> on Thursday April 04, 2002 @01:54PM (#3285320)
    >dan
    >--
    >
    >-- Don't trust anyone with a user number lower than 10,000.

    You have defamed me for the last time, Dan! I will not stand for this sort of character assasination. I'll see you in court!
  • by datastew ( 529152 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @02:24PM (#3285575)
    We've slashdotted them. The main page still shows up at http://www.petswarehouse.com/ [petswarehouse.com], but trying to go a product page returns:
    Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e31'

    [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Timeout expired

    //global.asa, line 138
  • by curunir ( 98273 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @02:41PM (#3285724) Homepage Journal
    Expect a call from my lawyer, Satan.

    Wow...Satan represents himself...he must not be a very good lawyer...I would have thought he'd get a call from the "devil's advocate."
  • by Jaysyn ( 203771 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @03:25PM (#3286052) Homepage Journal
    You really shouldn't lump Satanists in with these scumbags, every Satanist that I have ever met we're actually pretty nice.

    Scientologists on the other hand.....

    Jaysyn
  • by gorilla ( 36491 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @03:48PM (#3286223)
    They have on their page "1-800-991-3299". Now calling them up on that number would be wrong, and calling them from a US pay phone, which costs them an extra 35 cents every call, would be even wronger.
  • by Alsee ( 515537 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @05:02PM (#3286820) Homepage
    Idiots who settle in cases like this, are like the people who cowtowed to the Nazis and let them rise to power. Come on people take a fucking stand on something!

    You tell 'em, Anonymous Coward!

    -
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04, 2002 @05:49PM (#3287112)
    "Suggested"??? He said it would be wrong! WRONG! Whatever you do, don't do what he said would be wrong to do!!
  • by hawk ( 1151 ) <hawk@eyry.org> on Thursday April 04, 2002 @06:54PM (#3287532) Journal
    With that post, slashdot is now a defendant!


    Oops! With this post, *I'm* a defendant.


    I've dealt with this kind of behavior before from those who represent themseloves. Yes, it can be expensive to handle along the way.


    But guess what, punk: I *am* a lawyer, and my hourly is $400. If you want to start this, go for it; my kids want to go to college, and I'll have your inventory and 25% of your paycheck for the next 20 years . . .


    hawk, esq., hoping the frivolous papers come his way . . .

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 04, 2002 @08:02PM (#3287888)
    If they are getting lots of $4000 settlements then they can jsut close up shop after that, or move to a new domain with their settlement millions.

    Why bother with expensive inventory if you can make lawsuits your main money earner.

    In fact the worse their service the more money the stand to make from lawsuits.
  • by chipotle_pickle ( 541351 ) on Thursday April 04, 2002 @08:36PM (#3288046)
    The perswarehouse site still notes its Gomez certification. However, as of March 31, of this year, Gomez has figured out that it does not know how to or can't afford to certify merchants. As of April 1, Petswarehouse is using the Gomez trademark without permission. LOL. See Gomez note here http://gomez.com/certification/single_firm.asp?fir m_id=1507&industry_id=35

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