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Raisethefist.com Raided 883

mfb and others wrote in about a raid on the operator of raisethefist.com last week. It was first reported on Indymedia.org here and here, followed by an LA Weekly article. By far the best news piece so far is this one from Newsbytes.
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Raisethefist.com Raided

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  • Hun? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Quasar1999 ( 520073 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @02:56PM (#2932132) Journal
    In yet another successfull attempt to silence our vioces, Raisethefist.com, an anarchist/activist independent media/collective has been shut down by the secret service.

    Secret service? They ain't doing a good job if slashdot knows... :P
  • by jaxdahl ( 227487 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:01PM (#2932176)
    From the site:

    NEWSFLASH raisethefist.com is running out of current allocated bandwidth. In just two days we have used over 130MB of data transfer. The limit is 512MB per month. That means we will run out of bandwidth in less than a week. If we do, the site will be shut down indefinitely. We need to move to another web host in order to keep the site up and updated with official information for its visitors. If you would like to donate space, the e-mail contact information is on the bottom of this page.

    I think it's a bad idea to link directly to his site.. We could end up costing him a lot of money in bandwidth terms.

  • by BadDoggie ( 145310 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:02PM (#2932180) Homepage Journal
    Who needs the FBI and a warrant to shut down a site? Post the URL here and the effect will toast the place. We kill sites for an entire month when they have transfer limits, even when we like them.

    woof.

    Move along now, nothing to moderate here.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:06PM (#2932228)
    I don't think anyone was throwing any books at Martin Luther. That was one of the things he was complaining about, i.e. that lay persons were instructed to not read for themselves.
  • by pyite ( 140350 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:11PM (#2932271)
    Darn. He wanted to be heard. He got it.
  • by Tackhead ( 54550 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:12PM (#2932290)
    > > raisethefist.com is running out of current allocated bandwidth. In just two days we have used over 130MB of data transfer. The limit is 512MB per month. [ ... ]
    > I think it's a bad idea to link directly to his site.. We could end up costing him a lot of money in bandwidth terms.

    1) L33t d00d defaces websites and acknowledges that he knew doing so was illegal.

    2) L33t d00d posts denial-of-service tools on the defaced websites.

    3) L33t d00d then whines about his bandwidth bills arising from the Slashdot effect.

    Payback's a bitch, ain't it, skr1pt k1ddi3?

    There's only one fist that needs to be raised here, and the FBI knows exactly where to raise it. And after the FBI's finished reaming out his bank account, I hope his bandwidth provider takes whatever's left.

  • Matthew McLaughlin, a representative of the FBI's Los Angeles field office, confirmed that agents who conducted the search were heavily armed.

    "This is Los Angeles after all. We always go in to protect ourselves. We don't go in with slingshots," said McLaughlin

    Ok, so this guy is probably pretty clearly guilty of computer cracking - and yeah, that's definately criminal in this case. I don't think there's much question about that. What disturbs me here is thay they send out a damn batallion of armed-to-the-teeth FBI to pick this guy up! What's wrong with just sending down ONE pair FBI officers and a few squads? Here we still don't know who was sending antrhax letters all over the place, but the FBI needs to send the fscking infantry to bust a skript kiddie?!?

    I'm not usually one to bitch about my "tax dollars", but I want my money back on this operation. Go solve a murder case, you assholes. Leave these relatively petty (and *non-violent*) crimes to the local cops or a rookie FBI agent.

  • by bryan1945 ( 301828 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:29PM (#2932452) Journal
    I call on all Americans to rise up and fight this! Oppose these pigs. Fight to the death! Up with anarchy, down with bad stuff!

    Let us march into a new age, and...

    *knock, knock*
    Yes?
    "It's the FBI."
    Oh, fuck! Hold on a minute...

    ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
    rm / *.* -r
    format c:

    *crash* "Freeze!"

  • by Dasme ( 545312 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:30PM (#2932458)
    And in other news...

    "The US army were embarased today in an attack on Afgan terrorists. They were quoted saying "Damn you leet-terror.com and your fake C4 recipies!" The scent of burning silly putty could be smelt for miles"

    :\ Daz
  • by darien ( 180561 ) <darien&gmail,com> on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:37PM (#2932536)
    From the Newsbytes story: "In the interview, Austin said he did not write the bomb instructions but instead copied the pages from another site."

    Never mind incitement to violence - this guy's a copyright violator! Let him fry, I say.
  • by gdyas ( 240438 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:38PM (#2932543) Homepage

    Thoreau, in Civil Disobediance, explained that philosophically it's right to disobey what you honestly feel is an unjust law. In doing so though, one needs to be willing to accept society's punishment for its violation.

    In comparison, doesn't this whiny punk who's spent too much time in the 2600/Mother Jones/High Times section of the magazine rack seem a little lacking? No matter though. I'm sure his bunkmates in Leavenworth will show him the meaning of passive resistance.

  • by jeffy124 ( 453342 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:41PM (#2932572) Homepage Journal
    tomorrow starts yet another month......
  • by poot_rootbeer ( 188613 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @03:56PM (#2932721)
    Columbia: 2 billion dollars to fight leftist guerillas who are trying to win better conditions for the poor while the right wing wealthy landowners who they're opposing pump drugs into America and bullets into peasants.


    Gosh, I had no idea what conditions at that Ivy school in upper Manhattan was really like...!
  • by Dethboy ( 136650 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @04:01PM (#2932759) Homepage
    Somehow I found it funny this article is right under the monkey/mouse/mind control article?

    Maybe now George can get on the net now and see what all these 'terrorist' sites are all about.
  • by wytcld ( 179112 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @04:15PM (#2932898) Homepage
    Why go to amateurs when the US gov. will seel you top quality biowar instructions [nytimes.com] for fifteen bucks!
  • by Baboshka ( 15952 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @05:01PM (#2933336) Homepage
    I am sure that I read somewhere that over 90% of all statistics on the Internet are made up. When I find the link to the research I will post it.
  • Yeah (Score:4, Funny)

    by SimonK ( 7722 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @05:59PM (#2933852)
    I was imprisoned for my beliefs. I believed I wouldn't get caught.
  • by mr. roboto ( 85479 ) on Thursday January 31, 2002 @07:18PM (#2934386)
    ktakki said:
    I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but I believe the 2nd Amendment was driven by the authors' aversion to having a permanent standing army, then regarded as a tool of tyranny.

    Jelque responded with:
    Thank god your not a Constitutional lawyer. Maybe you should read it sometime. Having a standing army was the last thing The Framers of the Constitution wanted.

    Which made me think, at first, that Jelque must not be a native English speaker. After all, the phrase "[the framers'] aversion to having a permenent standing army" means the same thing as "Having a standing army was the last thing The Framers of the Constitution wanted. Only in times of war, are there supposed to be a standing army." Jelque, however, seems to think that he (she?) has some disagreement with ktakki on this point, indicating a lack of familiarity with the English language. Also, there's Jelque's piss-poor use of English (your vs. you're, "are there supposed to be", etc.)

    However, I then noticed Jelque's reference to Americans as "we" (I know not all Americans are native English speakers, but there's a pretty strong correlation). In addition, I know few non-native speakers to be as careless with their reading and writing as Jelque clearly is. I have concluded therefore, the Jelque is a poorly educated native English speaker.

    Sorry for the snarkiness. I actually have moderator access right now, so I could have just moderated Jelque down. This was more fun, though.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 31, 2002 @09:41PM (#2935055)
    It's a good thing that the pointy-heads in charge of busting this scrawny little reprobate had the presence of mind to pay enough top dollar agents, coppers and other assorted mercenary riffraff to scare the be-gumbo outta the lad. The return on tax dollars and guaranteed safety for those involved in the take-down was obviously a large part of that decision.

    I think they should have sent 300 armed soldiers (what? they did that already?) and maybe a few battle choppers (or heck, even the fabled black helicopters too!) to tame his neighbors while they were at it... after all, what good is a parade with only one clown and a marching band?

    With proper filming the event could have become a national attraction, with tickets sold to grow some more military people. Hopefully this second crop would have a few neat-o cerebral enhancements. Certainly this is a reasonable proposition?

    I only wish those turkeys that thought up this crazy raid would give a thought to cleaning up my neighborhood person by person in this extravagantly wasteful and farcical manner.

    See ya suckers

    James Warkentin
    porsche_lover@hotmail.com
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 31, 2002 @10:31PM (#2935242)
    You are a lying, cowardly fool. Provide evidence that any Afghanis were injured by cluster bombs they thought were food packets.

Never call a man a fool. Borrow from him.

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