NFL, MLB Support Ruling Against DeCSS 27
Chuck Fu writes "Both the NFL and Major League Baseball submitted their brief today in support of the lower court's ruling against DeCSS,
stating that DeCSS
'threatens to destroy the legitimate marketplace for works of art, music, film, software, literature and other video programming
(including sports programming), and will deter the development and distribution of new works in state-of-the-art digital media.'
ZDNet and
CNet
has the story."
A Few Things. (Score:3)
This case is pretty much the only reason I have DeCSS on my computer, I don't have a DVD-Rom and the DVD Player I do have is a different region than the DVDs I have (which annoys me to no end).
Also:
Unchecked, such piracy threatens to destroy the legitimate marketplace for works of art..."
Yes, because everybody on the net is a pirate. Gimme a break, I don't see the Recording Industry going down in flames because of "piracy".
DeCSS (Score:1)
Re:A Few Things. (Score:1)
I agree. Since when do sports leagues have an interest in the movie industry? I can understand the government getting involved to defend their law, but this is ridiculous. What's next, Catholic Church Condemns DeCSS?
what the...?! (Score:1)
Re:DeCSS (Score:1)
Why is that? I thought DeCSS contained not only the key from the reverse-engineered Xing player, but all the keys. Has the DVD-CCA revoked all the keys? If so, how have they updated all the players out there with new ones?
Works of Art = Pieces of Work (Score:3)
MLB has claimed ownership of all facts (statistics) resulting from their 'performance art' They wanted to charge the media for the right to report game scores (as an anti-fan I considered this vindication in claiming that sports isn't news)
The NFL took to trademarking the names fan groups applied to themselves - so they could charge the fans in direct proportion to their enthusiasm (being an anti-fan, I of course applauded this move - soak the fans for enough and they will eventually get a clue)
An important point to remember is that the sports cartels do spend most of their time dealing criminals and 'morally challenged' individuals. These people - which is what the sports cartels base their opinions of everyone else on are known as 'players', 'agents', 'media', and 'lawyers'. Given the nature of these people it is easy to understand how the sports cartels are concerned about the billions of dollars they are losing illegal viewing of their 'performance art'.
All these talk of 'performance art' has reminded me - when will we be seeing the briefs from the real performance artists (pro wrestling). After all, they do have real money at stake here.
Re:what the...?! (Score:1)
If you don't understand why they are against it, think about it. They own all the copyrights to their sports events' recordings, so every time someone wants to show it in a highlight film or something, they get a cut. Some of the other comments in this thread explain the reasons better, but basically, they are content providers, just like the movie studios, so they think there's going to be hundreds of people pirating "Baseball's Greatest Hits" or something.
Re:what the...?! (Score:1)
MLB DVD? Say what? (Score:2)
Sports may be a bit more savvy (Score:3)
I don't know that the NFL or MLB release any DVD's yet (though they do put out greatest highlights and season retrospectives on VHS), but I'm sure they are very aware of the potential damage to their traditional revenue stream that new technology poses. It's unfortunate that they, like the RIAA and the MPAA, choose to fight progress with legal action, rather than try to embrace technology and fing new ways to make money that take advantage of it. But sports fans have long ago learned to live with the annoying, misguided, and down-right evil actions of sports team owners.
Player Intelligence. (Score:1)
So now that we've established that DeCSS has no impact on athletes.. how does it impact the baseball leagues and the NFL? Does it screw the management (greedy bastards)? Does the media cartel have their hands down someone else's pants? They [the players and management and co.] just strike me as another greedy organization looking to exploit the little guy.
Re:what the...?! (Score:3)
Whoa. Isn't the use of snippets Fair Use? (as opposed to an entire copyrighted work, which would mean replaying the entire game)
Re:DeCSS (Score:3)
Re:DeCSS (Score:1)
Re:Player Intelligence. (Score:1)
--Xantho
Re:what the...?! (Score:2)
Fair use was outlawed in 1998 by the DMCA.
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Re:DeCSS (Score:2)
Windows API libraries to help the average programmer write small, efficient programs like Microsoft does. Remember: They're not bugs, they're features.
so? (Score:1)
NEWS: cloning, genome, privacy, surveillance, and more! [silicongod.com]
Re:MLB DVD? Say what? (Score:2)
Remember all of those NFL archive films narrated by the late, great John Facenda? You know, the ones that start off, "From the snowy, frigid tundra of Lambeau Field..." They're all on film stock - a great medium for transferral to high-res digital.
Of course noone will buy a game on dvd... but they will buy the aggregate highlights of a whole season, of the career of a player.
Re:Player Intelligence. (Score:1)
Not to be a troll criticising the smallest mistakes (in fact, I think I spelled "criticize" wrong...), but you said that you *doubt* that they *lack* the knowledge, effectively saying that you think they do have the knowledge... This is clearly not what you meant, but I wanted to point it out.
Again, the only reason I point this out is that it completely changes the meaning of your post; I am just as annoyed as the rest of the /. population by people starting flame wars over apostrophes...
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Re:Player Intelligence. (Score:1)
Go Canes
Re:so? (Score:1)
I do say some intelligent things. I usually found dweebs like you to be the real losers
Re:so? (Score:2)
I do say some intelligent things. I usually found dweebs like you to be the real losers
Did you ever think that maybe the intent WAS to offend you?
While the tech sector may have succeeded at producing the likes of assholes like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, at least we didn't create wife beaters like OJ Simpson and murderers like Rae Carruth.
LK
Re:MLB DVD? Say what? (Score:1)
Re:DeCSS (Score:2)
Anyway, he reports the following DVDs work properly:
- Titan A.E.
- A Bug's Life
- Jakob the Liar
(These are all the one's he's tried so far)
This was done using the patched DeCSS enabled xine, version 0.3.6, I believe. This player is available from:
http://gape.ist.utl.pt/ment00/linuxdvd.html
I *cough*, I mean he, had to set the DVD drive to region one before Xine would work, using a little prog called rpcmgr11.c, commonly found on the net (just google for it, compile it, read its instructions and set your DVD region code to 1). This worked for both a Toshiba SD-M1401 DVD-ROM and one of those Pioneer slot loading ones, think its called the "305S" or something like that.
I've got at least one DVD, Sting's Brand New Day album, that is not CSS enocded. (Maybe the evil between the MPAA and RIAA cancel each other out
Sure is neat to be able to watch movies you own on your own Linux box.
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Here is why they support decss ruling (Score:1)
It's pretty simple. A large portion of sports team owners get their revenue from network contracts. If the networks feel they cannot have control over their content(on the net hehee;-), then their product becomes a commodity, like the rest of the IP in the world.
If because of this the sports teams revenues go down, then so do the franchise valuations go down and the professional athelete makes 1/3 of what he does today.
If brodcasters cannot "lock up" their content, then their crapIP will be spread all over the net.(god forbid people actually watch any of their programming anyway they can)
Why don't the network television stations just upload their content to a freenet node is beyond me. They can embed advertising in their content and have the luxury of not having to pay for bandwidth!
Re:Here is why they support decss ruling (Score:1)