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How to tell the difference (Score:5, Informative)
Hip vs Academic [geektyrant.com]
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
Basically, I am both. :P
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
Computers have heads? Where? :P
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
I am Neither. :P
I was labeled the (design)electronics/computers guru at university and it stuck. A good friend of mine is the Oracle (Oracle at Delphi sort, as opposed to database guru), who could code his way out of pretty much anything. He was once known to ritually sacrifice a PIC16F just before a project deadline.
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
Ah, so you don't do nerdy and geeky stuff. I do. :O
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
Not really, I do engineering stuff instead... On the plus side, I probably have bigger toys than you... :P
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
Engineering nerd/geek!
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
hmmm... does that make us bi-technical
It may even make you tri-technical: MaWiLi (speak out loud!) and because you're both nerd and geek I will make it clear that this is an analogy for Holebi! ;-)
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:5, Informative)
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:3)
I should have taken your comment as the warning it is. My only consolation is that I managed to close the tab before reading it all.
In conclusion, nerd or geek, stop trying to fucking classify me you shit-munching, rodent-raping fucktards.
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:3)
Yeah! What magic maverick said.
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:3, Insightful)
I prefer this one: http://xkcd.com/747/ [xkcd.com]
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:5, Funny)
I prefer this one: http://xkcd.com/747/ [xkcd.com]
I prefer this one: https://xkcd.com/747/ [xkcd.com]
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
I don't feel the creator of this chart was geek nor nerd enough to understand the diminishing difference, and was clearly driven by dork desires
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:5, Insightful)
I totally agree. Apple-heads have co-opted the geek label. Time to disassociate myself with that term.
It used to be a geek knew how to do things. Now the iDiots think that talking about something and moving your finger of the overly-hyped touch screen on their iThing makes them some sort of expert. Their greatest skill is propping up Apple's bank accounts by repeatedly buying overpriced products.
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:3)
Sure.. Nerf guns, potato guns, catapults, laser or phaser guns, maybe even 3D printed guns. But neither geek nor nerd has any use for a real gun. We solve our problems in better ways.
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:4, Funny)
... We solve our problems in better ways.
Math
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure a geek can have a use for guns. Because guns are amazing hobby tools, not just something for "busting a cap." Go to a shooting competition sometime, and watch those bastards haul around hundreds of pounds of equipment, on which they have spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars tuning and modding and unmodding and remodding, just to make a little metal target flip down.
THAT is geekdom.
(Just don't share that with most of them, or you might get shot)
Re: How to tell the difference (Score:3)
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
Nearly every software engineer, network engineer, server engineer, etc. that _I_ know does NOT own a MacBook Pro. So what have we proven here? You work in some sort of Apple-centric shop or location.
Besides, I was ranting about iThings and how people think it makes them geeks. At least with a MacBook Pro you have the potential to actually do geeky things like write software or analyze DNA.
Re:How to tell the difference (Score:2)
They just haven't watched enough X-Files. "Humbug" taught me that term when I was 14 or so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdBYlH4H9Ck [youtube.com]
News for nerds? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:News for nerds? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:News for nerds? (Score:2, Informative)
It's now "News for click-throughs" since being sold off.
Re:News for nerds? (Score:2)
If you were a nerd, you would read Slashdot through the HTML source.
Then you would see that it still is the title.
Lynx works too, I just checked.
Re:News for nerds? (Score:2)
Re:News for nerds? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:News for nerds? (Score:2)
Actually, that is still the title of the homepage. It just seems that firefox overwrites the tag with the RSS object count.
<title>Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters</title>
If you watch when the front page loads, the title appears briefly, and then is replaced by Slashdot (##).
IE still shows the title, and I don't have Chrome or Safari installed, so I have no idea (nor do I actually care) how either of those react.
I could care less about how IE reacts, but that POS is still installed, so I figured I would check...
I don't have access to lynx or links right now, otherwise I would have checked them (the only other browsers I would actually use).
I am not sure if that makes me a geek or a nerd for checking that, but either way... I know I am not a hipster, because I still have my soul.
Re:News for nerds? (Score:2)
Also, it's often no longer news when it appears at Slashdot, and often it's also not really for nerds any more. So they figured out that truth in advertising means only "stuff" would remain. But "stuff" by itself doesn't make a good tag line.
Re:News for nerds? (Score:2)
stuff is critical!
My rescue cat recently started to sleep on me,
there are different levels that "stuff that matters" matters
Re:News for nerds? (Score:4, Informative)
Browsers care about the title element plenty, they also care about JavaScript changing it too.
Re:News for nerds? (Score:3)
(someone had to post it)
Venn Diagram (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Venn Diagram (Score:3)
Looks like mostly Geek with some Nerd tendencies (I'm not anti-social, just prefer solitude in general).
[John]
Re:Venn Diagram (Score:4, Insightful)
Those who compose web sites like that aren't nerdy enough to know the difference between antisocial and asocial, and why it matters.
Re:Venn Diagram (Score:2)
Missing options (Score:2)
Re:Missing options (Score:2)
If your sibling felt compelled to make such a diagram, it's pretty obvious you're a blazing nerd.
Sick Nerd Baller (Score:3)
Re:Sick Nerd Baller (Score:2)
Athleticism automatically gets you booted out of the club. That, and using cool lingo.
Re:Sick Nerd Baller (Score:2)
I wonder if I was the only one. (Score:2)
When I was a kid, I didn't fit in with any group. There were the jocks, the nerds, and a couple of other groups. It was fair to say that if there was a group of kids that fit into a group like that, I was more than likely getting beat up by them. Today, they call me a nerd, but I'm not. I've never been a nerd. You don't have to be a nerd to work in technology, or even write code. I'm just a normal guy with a family, trying to make a living.
Re:I wonder if I was the only one. (Score:2)
Re:I wonder if I was the only one. (Score:2)
Re:In that case ... (Score:2)
Past a certain point of ignoring people and neglecting social skills you get so freaky that no one wants to mess with you. People that have no business being afraid of you end up being deathly afraid of you.
That's "IT professional", to you, bucko . . . (Score:2)
Simply being good at your job and knowing your stuff neither makes you a geek or a nerd.
People speaking in German call me a "Hacker" a lot, but they mean that in a sense that I can get difficult technical jobs done.
There is a difference! (Score:5, Funny)
The difference between a Geek and a Nerd is that a Geek knows the difference between a Geek and a Nerd.
Re:There is a difference! (Score:4, Funny)
What is the difference? Please please please tell me which one I am! ;-)
Re:There is a difference! (Score:2)
You have that backwards. Which is why you'll always be a Geek.
Both mostly the same. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Both mostly the same. (Score:3)
I'm a geek and I politely disagree with your post. :)
I never considered myself as a nerd, quite the opposite, I liked sports, car, bikes and hanging-out/drinking with my friends (both male and female). I used to be very good at mathematics, but the rest was a disaster, since I just didn't care. I managed to finish school not because I was good enough, but because teachers liked me, even if I was one of the most terrible students you could have (and I still don't understand why they liked me).
But when I first saw a personal computer, I fell in love with it (Amiga 500 and coin up games), since then, my obsession made me quite an expert in the field and allowed me to earn good money.
Re:Both mostly the same. (Score:2)
Mentioning Amiga (even the A500) definitely suggests some geek cred. I do think, in order to be a true geek, one must have a passion/obsession over at least some area of science or technology. Probably more than one... I've been known to "geek out" on many topics -- none more intensely than my Amigas.
And in fact, it's near impossible to "geek out" over a topic without having social contact. Friends and drinks usually add to the fun. I don't see these as essential elements of nerdism.
Re:Both mostly the same. (Score:2)
Well, I kept it short but I'm fascinated about technology overall and what the future holds for us.
Re:Both mostly the same. (Score:2)
Geek comes from biting heads off small animals (Score:4, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek_show
Ozzy Osborne is a true geek.
Re:Geek comes from biting heads off small animals (Score:2)
Well, only by accident. He thought it was a rubber bat, not a real bat.
[John]
Re:Geek comes from biting heads off small animals (Score:2)
Well, only by accident. He thought it was a rubber bat, not a real bat.
[John]
That was the second time he did something like that, the first was with a dove in a meeting with CBS executives and he was very drunk. [wikipedia.org]
My argument why I am not a nerd (Score:3)
Re:My argument why I am not a nerd (Score:4, Insightful)
You are neither, move along.
There is a difference! (Score:2, Interesting)
I've always seen geeks as individuals that are "supersaturated" with knowledge of a particular discipline. There can be math geeks, computer geeks, star trek geeks, movie geeks, car geeks, sports geeks... But just because one is a geek does not in-and-of-itself mean one is a nerd.
Nerd is a title granted to individuals with two characteristics: high intelligence combined with a complete absence of social prowess. It's the latter trait that often distinguishes the geeks and the nerds. I've seen plenty of geeks in my life that are not nerds; as intelligent individuals with the ability to socialize, they are quite pleasant conversationalists. I have seen some nerds who aren't geeks; those individuals possess great intelligence not isolated to a particular discipline, but are very difficult to communicate with.
I'm nobody (Score:2)
Quit bothering me
Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:5, Insightful)
First, the subculture. Generally at some point in development, some individuals find themselves somewhat outcast from the group. These individuals often value things that aren't necessarily valued by the mainstream, things like knowledge for its own sake, or some cultural media that aren't necessarily accepted. These individuals often find themselves awkward in the beginning with those accepted by the mainstream. There are three major varieties in this subculture, the Geek, the Nerd, and the Dork. While disproportionately male, there are female members of the group, though for the purposes of this discussion the masculine will be used in describing them.
The Nerd is the most common member of the group. He is technically intelligent and frequently likes cultural media that are not popular in the mainstream. He may have some issues with wardrobe or hygiene, possibly explaining his membership in this group in the first place. If the Nerd attends a mainstream function like a party, his is generally less comfortable in the situation. He does not have a lot of mainstream topics to talk about, and the same issues that he experienced putting him into this subculture will apply in this setting.
The Geek is the pinnacle of the group. The Geek starts out as a Nerd in the fashion that most start out, but over time grows. Geeks have technical acumen, interests in many of the non-mainstream cultural aspects that Nerds have, but have grown out of being Nerds in that they have knowledge and interests beyond the subculture. They have generally sorted out their wardrobe and hygiene, and at the same party will be able to communicate with others in the mainstream without difficulty. The Geek may even be accepted by the mainstream again, but given his experiences in being marginalized to begin with will remember and usually won't fully embrace the mainstream.
The Dork is the lowest member of the subculture. The Dork is the Me-tooer, the AOLer, of the group, having the worst characteristics without having the redeeming ones. Dorks generally lack technical acumen, and when they embrace cultural aspects either only have superficial knowledge or else have incredibly detailed knowledge about a such a narrow topic that they still have difficulty. As negatives, Dorks have the hygiene issues of the Nerd. In the same party above, the Dork will only be comfortable with the Nerd and the Geek, but the Nerd and the Geek will tire of the Dork before too long, given his lack of technical ability or interesting knowledge. While it's possible for Dorks to emerge into Nerds, it's less likely than Nerds progressing into Geeks.
The almost-not-worth-mentioning category are those that are part of the maintream but fallaciously refer to themselves as Nerds or Geeks. Popular people that wax poetic about Apple products, saying, "I'm such a nerd/geek!" cause real Nerds and Geeks to cringe when they hear it. They are not accepting of the pretty person because the pretty person did not go through the issues that they had to deal with, and is thus nondeserving of the label; however negative it may have been, it was at least earned.
By the way, I identify as a Geek. I experienced my own issues in junior high and high school and embraced the subculture. I BBSed, used Fidonet, migrated to Usenet and IRC, and played in highly technical circles, with computers, electronics, ham radio, and the like. Eventually I widened out to auto restoration, dance, and other mainstream hobbies that give me something to talk about with non-Geeks and non-Nerds. I know that I can rely on my abilities when I need them, but I do not feel the need to always pursue things for their own sakes. I do not look down upon those who do, because I once was like that. I do value knowledge for its own sake, though I understand that I may be pushing harder and harder for knowledge that won't serve a purpose, and I may choose to spend my time another way.
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
The most well written comparison I've seen yet. Did you write this yourself? If not, source? Thanks :-)
Re: Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
Good analysis but the poster was perhaps too well mannered to mention the indelicate fact that Geeks also bite off the heads of live chickens every once in a while. All others are wannabe Geeks.
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:3)
Different, arcane meaning of the word. Not relevant for decades. Why do all you dweebs keep bringing it up?
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
Different, arcane meaning of the word. Not relevant for decades. Why do all you dweebs keep bringing it up?
Because I've been using it for a very long time, most likely well before you were born.
BTW don't the TOS for this site forbid an hominem attacks?
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
personally, I know I'm a nerd, because I have 4 different colored pens in my shirt pocket. (Though I guess, if I were a classic nerd, I would have a pocket protector, which I don't own.) In my teen years, I was sort of a combination of Freak and Nerd, and I also played sports well (mostly basketball, though I was too short and not a good enough jumper, I was a good ball handler and shooter). I don't believe that you have to be physically awkward or socially inept to be a nerd, just that you think interesting social encounters are things like conversations about which infinities are larger than others, or about the relationships between the International Practical Temperature Scale and thermodynamic temperatures.
A dork is ultimately a reference to the male genitalia, or to a facsimile thereof. There was a person in my high school classes, a nice, outgoing guy and very intelligent but known as Bjork the Djork, that fit the classification - a clumsy nerd without social grace.
To me, though, a geek is still someone in the circus sideshow that bites the heads off of chickens.
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
A geek is a circus performer specializing in performing gross tasks to make the audience gag. There you go. That is the official definition, thank you for self-identifying.
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
Geeks vs Nerds vs Dorks
Not completely wrong, but pretty darn close.
Nerd - someone who gets high grades in school and reads a lot, scholastically bright, generally a private person
Geek - someone who likes that which is not in the mainstream, they form tight communities around their interests, reduced interest in those outside the community
Dork - person with no social skills
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
Geeks vs Nerds vs Dorks
In short.
A Geek likes, builds and understand really cool stuff.
A Nerd likes and builds really cool stuff.
A Dork like really cool stuff.
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
I programmed my Dad's HP9100A when I was 11.....
Re:Geeks, Nerds, and Dorks (Score:2)
I built my dad's PET because he couldn't figure it out. ;)
Oblig xkcd (Score:2)
Just not boffin (Score:3)
Who's the Boffin! (Score:3)
Get the boffin in before them and they have no where to go with it.
Missing options (Score:2)
Chicken Heads Are Scrumptious (Score:2)
Re:Chicken Heads Are Scrumptious (Score:2)
I prefer this chicken head [wikimedia.org].
Re:Chicken Heads Are Scrumptious (Score:2)
Re:Chicken Heads Are Scrumptious (Score:2)
The correct term for that is "chicken lips". See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U34m_XSJaLA [youtube.com]
So what does it mean, really? (Score:2)
I guess I'm an black metal hipster hippie oldfag geek nerd then.
Or Just a G.O.A.T, Geek of all Trades.
Sometimes terms are meaningless.
Not sure... (Score:5, Funny)
A while ago, I started trying to decide if I was a geeky nerd or a nerdy geek. It turned into an internal debate that was about as entertaining as watching paint dry, and reminded me of a story I read somewhere (might have been /., but I don't think so, and I am too lazy to search now).
A man sits in his chair watching his dog spinning in circles, then the dog sits down and spends 10 minutes licking his (the dog's) balls. The man thinks to himself "wow, my dog is easily entertained - he is happy spending 10 minutes licking his balls... he must be really stupid". Then he thinks "crap, I have kept myself entertained for the last 10 minutes watching my dog lick his balls. I must be really really stupid".
left out "anorak" (Score:2)
The British-English term for those with a tremendous depth of knowledge on a subject often uninteresting to those around them, and an endless willingness to share said knowlege (i.e., a knowlege of relatively obscure terminology).
Voted neither (Score:2)
I'm the guy who gets to clean up the mess left by geeks and nerds who try to show off using the latest and greatest technology but which doesn't allow people to get their work done.
It gets very tiresome hearing, "It's new and cutting edge! It's great!" then asking them, "But people can't get their work done."
"Yeah, so? It's cutting edge!"
Re:Voted neither (Score:2)
"I'm the guy who gets to clean up the mess left by geeks and nerds who try to show off using the latest and greatest technology but which doesn't allow people to get their work done."
Nothing there describe nerd.
Geek (Code) (Score:3)
It's been a while so I had to make a few updates but here's my old Geek Code:
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GIT d-- s+:+ a++ C++++ UB++++$ UL++++$ UH++++$ US++++$ U*++++$
P++ L+++ E--- W+++ N++ !o K w+ O M++ V PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5 X++
R+++ tv+ b++++ DI++++ D++ G++ e h+@ r+++(%) r+++(%) y++++(--)
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
[John]
Re:Geek (Code) (Score:3)
None of the above (Score:2)
Nerd is another one of those names given us who actually *know* something by the "Popular Kids" in school, who don't believe in actually learning something that requires thinking, like the nobility of the middle ages: "read? I have clerks to do that"
Geek... no, because I know where the word comes from: it referred to the usually retarded guys who worked in carnivals, in the side/freak show, usually billed as The Wild Man of Borneo or some such, who'd literally bite the heads off live chickens.
Now, Newt Gingrinch, who served his first wife divorce papers while she was in the hospital for chemo, qualifies. I won't take it. Techie goes down ok. Knowledgeable, other struff, ok. But the words that were invented as denigrating, screw that. I don't need to take it from illiterate ignorants, who are so incompentant that they shouldn't try to clean their toasters, because they'd get electrocuted.
mark
Re:None of the above (Score:2)
Geek is what you call people who do things on the edge of society. Adults that read comics in the 60's and 70s , yes. Enjoying comics todaqy? no.
Going to see Iron man or the avengers? no, hat just makes you a person who likes good action movies.
"But the words that were invented as denigrating, "
no, it wasn't.
Nerd is an animal in a Zoo. I mean, if you are only going to consider it's origin then you are saying you should be locked up in a cage.
Actually I'm a "Nurd". (Score:2)
http://thetrad.blogspot.com/2011/08/are-you-nurd.html [blogspot.com]
Of course, I never understood why the approximation of Pi was so far off. I assume it's because this was from the end of the slide-rule era.
The difference (Score:2)
Nerds like fantasy, sci-fi, and anything that lets them escape reality and themselves. So why Pokemon instead of peyote? I don't know.
You can be both, either, or neither.
Re:The difference (Score:2)
I'm at the top of The Geek Hierarchy! (Score:5, Funny)
As seen here. [brunching.com]
It's good to be the king...
Ahh In Unix times (Score:4, Insightful)
No self respecting guru would accept anything less than being a
Wizard
Only Wizards know how to reach out and grep someone !
Re:the totem pole (Score:2)
Surely in terms of "purity", nerd comes well ahead of geek.
Re:the totem pole (Score:2)
You have geek and nerd in the wrong position. Assuming its based on contribution to society and not on the fact that as someone of average intelligent you need to placate your ego by putting your, probably incorrect, self identifier first.
Re:Classify me, now! (Score:2)
For all those 24% who say "Stop trying to classify me!", get real. We all classify people all the time, and the nuances that different group of people go through and what we all deem acceptable will bewilder anyone who gives it any thought at all. So, like the 24%, I used to try to be insistent on being a birder rather than a birdwatcher, a road cyclist rather than a biker or cycle tourer, and so ad infinitum for any of the myriad activities I choose to indulge in. And I would get angst-ridden about people getting it wrong. But not now. It's all just labels. Some are useful; others less so, but I now choose to collect these labels. So yes, I am a geek, a nerd, a dweeb, a brainiac, a freak, a weirdo and any other label you want to throw at me. So what? If I disagreed, you'd have given me a different label - trouble, argumentative, pain in the neck, grouch, grump. Whatever. I embrace the lot. Now that you've given me a name let's have a proper conversation.
Tut now. I ticked the 'Stop trying to classify me' box as partly I couldn't be bothered to work out my classification. But I don't think we humans can be just one classification (other than 'homo sapiens' and even that is dubious for some of the people I see on the train...). I'm a geek with nerdish tendancies. Maybe. I'm a male who can roast a chicken and doesn't like guns. I'm an NZer but I'm an Anglo-Saxon. (Probably: I might be Celt). Trying to classify someone as one thing is pointless. We'll all different things.
As Whitman said - I am vast, I contain multitudes.
Re:Geek v Nerd (Score:2)
Nerd: Poor social skill, high level of understanding and specialization.
Geek: Heavily interested in non mainstream items.
Protip: Liking comics is no longer geeky.