"Virtually every car that has an air bag has some kind of recording ability," says James Casassa, of Wolf Forensics which specializes in downloading crash information from vehicles made by GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota and Honda. The recorders capture information about how fast you were going and whether you slammed on the brakes in the seconds before and after a crash. They capture just a snapshot before and after a crash, not a continual record of your driving activity -- which would be far more concerning for privacy. (But don't worry! You can get a far more invasive event recorder from your insurance company if you're looking to lower your car insurance rates.)
Oh hell no! Not only does my car NOT have a black box - since it's a '68 without electronic ignition I'll still be driving while all you fools with new cars are stranded after a atmospheric nuclear blast
No you won't, you'll burn out a set of points and get stranded on the side of the road, like you used to see every hundred yards or so on the highways in 1968.
And all of us stealing gas to drive our mad max vehicles to escape the zombie hoards will be most grateful for your sacrifice! Remember folks when it comes to zombie hoards one poor dumb bastard on a bicycle can buy you precious seconds to escape! Of course the zombies would be considered VERY green as they are all biodegradable. BTW could you tie some bells or clackers to your bike to attract more of them to you? Thanks.
As for TFA which insurance company bribed...err I mean "contributed" to get this tax
I have a bicycle, so I laugh at your post-apocalyptic dependence on fossil fuels.
While I admire your attempt at post-apocalyptic transportation independence, *I*, using my psionic abilities, maneuvered my employer to relocating to new, larger facilities, 1.7 miles from my home (previously 3 miles from my home, though I had no sway in that decision, as they were in that location before I worked for them).
So, possessing two functioning legs, I laugh at your reliance on contrived mechanical transportation!
I live upstairs from where I work, so even without using my bicycle I do not use much gasoline or put many miles per year on my truck. Several grocery stores are within about 4 miles or so from home, so I do not use much gasoline driving to and from the grocery store. I also do much of my shopping at Amazon.com, which does not require my having to drive anywhere.
It usually takes about 25 years, to put enough miles on my car or truck to wear one out. I have been planning to have the engine on my 1992 GMC tru
I have occasionally thought about possibly getting suitable racks on my bicycle (or even a bicycle trailer), so that it could carry several bags of groceries
A modest, reasonable quality rucksack would probably serve your needs, as well as being appropriate baggage for all but the stuffiest of business meetings or hotels. It depends, of course on what you mean by "several" and "bag". You'd have to apply a bit of nous to the packing (bread and eggs on the top ; tins at the bottom), but carrying up to around 1
I would generally agree with your assessment. My only issue is that the wording of the Bill is somewhat open-ended, in that it does not say any specific requirements for what gets recorded, only a general statement on "safety" related data. The issue is it could have a type of 'feature creep" where certain organizations push for somewhat unrelated metrics to be collected under the general guise of safety. Is GPS position history safety related? Some might argue it is. I think that any bill passed should enumerate exactly what details are to be recorded, after all, the auto companies need to know what kind of sensors are to be deployed otherwise the costs will eventually get out of hand as new requirements are added. The Government has a history of moving the goal posts if they are not nailed down first.
shall require event data recorders to capture and store data related to motor vehicle safety covering a reasonable time period before, during, and after a motor vehicle crash or airbag deployment, including a rollover;
No GPS position. Speed, throttle, steering, seatbelt use, airbag deployment, etc. etc. are there
Well, once you get all this in the car....not a problem next year, adding a rider to the "We love children and have to protect them act"..which requires GPS, and also transmittable to authorities information.
I mean...it *is* already on the car...we're just adding a new safety feature.
Well, per the 2003 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision it's not legal to do so(*) but it's perfectly simple to do and the occupants of the vehicle are not alerted that it's happening.
(*) this decision is only applicable in California, Oregon, Nevada, Washington, Hawaii, and other states that fall within the 9th Circuit's jurisdiction.
So they listen to everyones conversations in real-time?
That would take around an eighth or a quarter of society to accomplish.
Even if they recorded everything and converted everything to text that would still be so much information it would be a significant portion of all information transmitted over the internet.
I have a Hyundai, it has their version of Onstar called Bluelink, they can track just about any feature of my car at will, but their network is still young as is their software so I rather doubt th
I would generally agree with your assessment. My only issue is that the wording of the Bill is somewhat open-ended, in that it does not say any specific requirements for what gets recorded, only a general statement on "safety" related data.
If the bill specified exactly what "safety" related data could be collected, that would take too much power away from presidential appointees and congressional committees who will continue to redefine the meaning of "safety related data" every year, thus providing lobbyists new reasons to give them money every year. If we take away the arbitrary power of our leaders, their campaign funding will start to dry up. We can't have that!
I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it.
The next step? (Score:4, Insightful)
And in all new persons from 2016.
(Maybe old ones too)
Your Car Likely Has A Black Box ALREADY (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/04/19/hate-to-break-it-to-you-but-your-car-likely-has-a-black-box-spying-on-you-already/ [forbes.com]
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Oh hell no! Not only does my car NOT have a black box - since it's a '68 without electronic ignition I'll still be driving while all you fools with new cars are stranded after a atmospheric nuclear blast
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No you won't, you'll burn out a set of points and get stranded on the side of the road, like you used to see every hundred yards or so on the highways in 1968.
Re:Your Car Likely Has A Black Box ALREADY (Score:5, Funny)
I have a bicycle, so I laugh at your post-apocalyptic dependence on fossil fuels.
Since, you know, I'm a farmer, doctor, engineer, and marksman. Also my bike doesn't require lubricant or tires for some reason.
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Furthermore, you are sending this message from the 1880s via your amazing printing time-telegraph.
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Because I've got a bike? Jessica's made out of materials that are, shall we say, little more recently developed than what's on most production cars.
Yes, my bike has a name, and yes, she is very pretty.
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I end up replacing a set of tires every year on average.
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And all of us stealing gas to drive our mad max vehicles to escape the zombie hoards will be most grateful for your sacrifice! Remember folks when it comes to zombie hoards one poor dumb bastard on a bicycle can buy you precious seconds to escape! Of course the zombies would be considered VERY green as they are all biodegradable. BTW could you tie some bells or clackers to your bike to attract more of them to you? Thanks.
As for TFA which insurance company bribed...err I mean "contributed" to get this tax
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While I admire your attempt at post-apocalyptic transportation independence, *I*, using my psionic abilities, maneuvered my employer to relocating to new, larger facilities, 1.7 miles from my home (previously 3 miles from my home, though I had no sway in that decision, as they were in that location before I worked for them).
So, possessing two functioning legs, I laugh at your reliance on contrived mechanical transportation!
In
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I live upstairs from where I work, so even without using my bicycle I do not use much gasoline or put many miles per year on my truck. Several grocery stores are within about 4 miles or so from home, so I do not use much gasoline driving to and from the grocery store. I also do much of my shopping at Amazon.com, which does not require my having to drive anywhere.
It usually takes about 25 years, to put enough miles on my car or truck to wear one out. I have been planning to have the engine on my 1992 GMC tru
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I am a slightly overweight middle-aged guy who could use the exercise anyway.
I went from 250# to about 160# by biking to school then work. Hell, I even teach spin classes now.
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A modest, reasonable quality rucksack would probably serve your needs, as well as being appropriate baggage for all but the stuffiest of business meetings or hotels. It depends, of course on what you mean by "several" and "bag". You'd have to apply a bit of nous to the packing (bread and eggs on the top ; tins at the bottom), but carrying up to around 1
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I have a bicycle, so I laugh at your post-apocalyptic dependence on fossil fuels.
Since, you know, I'm a farmer, doctor, engineer, and marksman. Also my bike doesn't require lubricant or tires for some reason.
What an effort walking has become.
Re:Your Car Likely Has A Black Box ALREADY (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Your Car Likely Has A Black Box ALREADY (Score:5, Informative)
The bill references Title 49 part 563 of the US Code of Federal Regulations, which you can find here.
http://www.harristechnical.com/downloads/49CFR563.pdf
No GPS position. Speed, throttle, steering, seatbelt use, airbag deployment, etc. etc. are there.
Re:Your Car Likely Has A Black Box ALREADY (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, once you get all this in the car....not a problem next year, adding a rider to the "We love children and have to protect them act"..which requires GPS, and also transmittable to authorities information.
I mean...it *is* already on the car...we're just adding a new safety feature.
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Also, if your car as On*Star, snip the antennae, and short the thing out.
They track your location, and listen to your cabin conversations in real-time.
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Sorry. Only first-hand anecdote.
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link [cnet.com]
(*) this decision is only applicable in California, Oregon, Nevada, Washington, Hawaii, and other states that fall within the 9th Circuit's jurisdiction.
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So they listen to everyones conversations in real-time?
That would take around an eighth or a quarter of society to accomplish.
Even if they recorded everything and converted everything to text that would still be so much information it would be a significant portion of all information transmitted over the internet.
I have a Hyundai, it has their version of Onstar called Bluelink, they can track just about any feature of my car at will, but their network is still young as is their software so I rather doubt th
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They don't have to monitor everybody all the time. All that matters is that they can do it, and that Murphy's Law happens.
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Better call the RIAA and ASCAP, I believe that is an unauthorised recording if I am listening to music.
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I would generally agree with your assessment. My only issue is that the wording of the Bill is somewhat open-ended, in that it does not say any specific requirements for what gets recorded, only a general statement on "safety" related data.
If the bill specified exactly what "safety" related data could be collected, that would take too much power away from presidential appointees and congressional committees who will continue to redefine the meaning of "safety related data" every year, thus providing lobbyists new reasons to give them money every year. If we take away the arbitrary power of our leaders, their campaign funding will start to dry up. We can't have that!