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Computer's Heat May Unmask Anonymized PCs

Posted by Zonk on Sat Dec 30, 2006 01:49 AM
from the i-seee-you dept.
Virtual_Raider writes "Wired is carrying a story about a method developed by security researchers to identify computers hiding behind anonymity services. From the article: 'His victim is the Onion Router, or "Tor" — a sophisticated privacy system that lets users surf the web anonymously. Tor encrypts a user's traffic, and bounces it through multiple servers, so the final destination doesn't know where it came from. Murdoch set up a Tor network at Cambridge to test his technique, which works like this: If an attacker wants to learn the IP address of a hidden server on the Tor network, he'll suddenly request something difficult or intensive from that server. The added load will cause it to warm up.'"
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  • by Mr. Flibble (12943) on Saturday December 30 2006, @01:57AM (#17406964) Homepage
    The temp increase is the method to cause the clock to skew as the chip heats up due to added server load. The heat itself is not detected, so the summary is very misleading. The idea is to load the server enough so that the timestamps begin to change, and these changes can be detected.

    Of course, the defense to this attack is probably something along the lines of:

    $ man nice
    • by jd (1658) <[moc.oohay] [ta] [kapimi]> on Saturday December 30 2006, @03:17AM (#17407298) Homepage Journal
      There are several defenses.
      • First, if the computer is sensibly cooled (ie: not by convection currents) then heating will be minimal.
      • Second, if you use a high-precision clock-chip, the chip will be tens or hundreds of times more accurate than the system time, so the drift will be entirely absorbed through the loss of accuracy.
      • Third, a defender worried about such an attack would use an oven-controlled oscillator for the clock, which means the temperature is whatever you want it to be. You can deliberately vary it to produce errors, or compensate for external temperature changes. Either way, you can be quite invisible to this method.
      • Fourth, the TOR network should be using an external time source (eg: NTP) that is not included in the TOR tunnel - ie: it's out-of-band - which means that the computers can automagically correct drift. If the computers are REALLY good, they'd correct drift on a second-order or third-order basis, rather than as a constant, so that you adapt how you read the clock to the shift in drift.


      The idea of using some sort of timing attack against such a network is interesting. There are probably better methods, though.


      One idea that springs to mind is that such P2P systems use caches. If you could generate enough requests to flood the cache system, you can force any computer to query nearby computers, where the latency will be roughly equal to the number of hops along the critical path. It then becomes similar to the game of "Black Box", where you try to map particles by throwing rays in and seeing what happens. If you have a sufficiently large latency map from a sufficiently large number of entrance points, you should be able to derive the whole of the exposed topology of the P2P network and be able to identify which of those servers carry what data.


      (Think about it. Those of us in Open Source have all done reverse engineering, we have all tried to wrest the secrets of some black box we can't see the inside of, and eventually we have all succeeded in doing so. Our interpretation may not 100% match the internals literally, but they WILL 100% match the internals logically. And in the end, that's all that matters.)

      • First, if the computer is sensibly cooled (ie: not by convection currents) then heating will be minimal.

        The computers I tested it with were normal desktop machines. They all had fans, and in some cases were thermostatically controlled. The differences in temperature were only 1–2 C, but that could be remotely detected.

        Second, if you use a high-precision clock-chip, the chip will be tens or hundreds of times more accurate than the system time

        An oven-controlled crystal might be accurate enough (<1pp

        • Let me know if you want to try it with an oven-controlled clock. I'm sure I can sort out something that will hold a reasonably steady temperature (better than free-space at least).
      • One idea that springs to mind is that such P2P systems use caches. If you could generate enough requests to flood the cache system, you can force any computer to query nearby computers, where the latency will be roughly equal to the number of hops along the critical path. It then becomes similar to the game of "Black Box", where you try to map particles by throwing rays in and seeing what happens. If you have a sufficiently large latency map from a sufficiently large number of entrance points, you should be able to derive the whole of the exposed topology of the P2P network and be able to identify which of those servers carry what data.

        Nice idea, but it wouldn't work on Tor. The topology of the router network depends on who is using it, as routing paths are decided by the machines using the Tor network to remain anonymous, not by the routers themselves. In the case of a hidden service on Tor, a directory server is used to associate a .onion TLD with several routing paths the clients can use to contact to the server. Little information can be derived from the routing paths themselves, as the address of each router in the sequence is encr

      • "(Think about it. Those of us in Open Source have all done reverse engineering, we have all tried to wrest the secrets of some black box we can't see the inside of, and eventually we have all succeeded in doing so. Our interpretation may not 100% match the internals literally, but they WILL 100% match the internals logically. And in the end, that's all that matters.)"

        In many ways I agree, but literal != logical. If I spoof the behaviour you look for, I could 'frame' another server for my processes. Log
  • by Mal Reynolds (676267) <Michael_stev80 AT hotmail DOT com> on Saturday December 30 2006, @02:00AM (#17406982)
    Randomizing the clock of systems serving Tor traffic would render this attack worthless.

    Since this and other such attacks are based on analyzing very small changes in the target system clock, even a tiny amount of randomization or pseudo randomization would be effective.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Other potential solutions include preventing machines from reporting local time (through HTTP? - I'm not clear the attacker learns the time in the first place; neither TCP nor IP have time information in the headers, it seems) or preventing hidden servers from talking on the public Internet.

      For most hidden services, either should be feasible. Timing doesn't seem that important anyway, given the inherent latency of the Tor network.
        • RFC1323:

          This memo presents a set of TCP extensions to improve performance
          over large bandwidth*delay product paths and to provide reliable
          operation over very high-speed paths. It defines new TCP options for
          scaled windows and timestamps, which are designed to provide
          compatible interworking with TCP's that do not implement the
          extensions. The timestamps are used for two distinct mechanisms:
          RTTM (Round Trip Time Measurement) and PAWS (Protect Against Wrapped

    • If I read this correctly, it requires the enclosure to heat up, since the clock oscillator is on the motherboard, not on the CPU. Thus, randomising fan speeds would have the same effect.

      Even if the clock oscillator were part of the CPU package, adding some random variation to the CPU cooler fan speed would defeat this.
    • by KermodeBear (738243) on Saturday December 30 2006, @02:38AM (#17407170) Homepage
      What about always using 100% of your CPU? I run the BOINC [berkeley.edu] client for the Rosetta@HOME [bakerlab.org] project and tell it to crunch as much data as it can with idle CPU time. It is ALWAYS up and running. So, if I have this running on a machine that also uses Tor then the "create extra CPU load" method would fail.
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        So, if I have this running on a machine that also uses Tor then the "create extra CPU load" method would fail.

        Not necessarily.

        If you have your CPU-intensive app running at a low priority, and TOR running at a higher priority, then your CPU will become slightly hotter when TOR is doing heavy processing.

        It may make it much harder to detect than it already is, but there you go.
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward
          What has priority got to do with it?

          Why would heavy processing by TOR make the CPU run hotter than heavy processing by $SOME_APP ? It's still just heavy processing, CPU at 100% usage.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Have a look at this blog posting [lightbluetouchpaper.org] for why adding random noise will not prevent the attack. Essentially, random noise doesn't change the average skew, since the computer doesn't have an independent reference clock. By taking a moving average over time, the noise can be detected and removed.
  • I'm changing my heatsink from copper to fiber...
  • I miss read the title the first time, the joke being I do heat my office with computers. I have three of them in the room and the 4800 dual core puts out a fair amount of heat on it's own keeping it toasty compared to the rest of the house. I used to have a dual 300 that got so hot you couldn't touch the side of the case. I literally put a box fan on that one to keep it running.
    • I have a PDP-11/73 [kicks-ass.net] that warms up the workshop quite nicely. I don't know why, but despite drawing around 400W (just the same as my PC) it throws out a lot more heat. Of course if you fire up the big RL02s it gets a lot noisier and the current draw goes up. Just the PDP-11 on its own is quieter than my PC, too, despite having four 5" fans.
  • utterly useless? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by pavera (320634) on Saturday December 30 2006, @02:28AM (#17407116) Journal
    Ok, so if I am using Tor, presumably I've got clients behind these servers.... so according to the article, he can detect a server? What good does that do him? That doesn't identify *MY* machine the client which is actually doing the browsing. So, he can see which server is running Tor... couldn't he just portscan to find that out?
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      TFS mentioned "servers" and then jumped to "hidden servers".

      Hidden services are something different than a Tor user. A hidden server is reachable via some hostname in the .onion TLD and provides services like HTTP, just like in the non-Tor network. It's basically an anonymous server instead of an anonymous client.
  • Just run Folding 24/7, max out your CPU. Also, monitoring heat requires physical access to the server. Oh well, nice try though.
  • All the anonymised computers which heated up had Pentium 4s.
  • It looks to me like this can (somewhat) finger print a given machine but I sure don't see how it can discover an IP on TOR.
  • 1. Create a minor botnet
    2. DDoS a server, not enough to kill it but slow it down a lot
    3. Measure response times to hidden service
    4. If all requests using different paths now are slow, you got it

    Also, that attack scales to detect multiple hidden sites simultaniously - hit one server, request ten sites and see who answers quickly and not. It's just a consequence of depending on one machine. The only way you could totally avoid that is to not have services at all, only distributed datastore like e.g. Freenet.
  • Simple Defense (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Cbs228 (596164) on Saturday December 30 2006, @06:06AM (#17407770)

    Since date and time information isn't included in TCP/IP packets, this kind of attack won't work for all services. Assuming that the "hidden servers" in question are HTTP servers, there is a rather simple workaround: simply disable sending the "Date" header. This can probably be accomplished with mod_headers [apache.org] in Apache, but I've never tried using it myself. Oddly enough, the server would still be standards compliant [w3.org]. Obviously, servers that leak the current time by some other means would still be vulnerable.

    A simpler, less precise attack of this nature would simply be to continuously ping the suspected server via both Tor and the public internet. If they (reproducibly) fail at the same time (and we could launch a denial-of-service attack to make it fail), they're probably the same machine. Attacks of this nature might even be able to confirm if a hidden server is on the same network as another computer.... But any of these attacks require someone to suspect you of running the server in the first place—and if they do, you probably have bigger problems to worry about.

    The bottom line is, as Tor's manual clearly indicates [eff.org], having a hidden server machine accessible from both Tor and the internet is a bad thing. Operators of hidden services should use a dedicated machine and block all incoming traffic (on all TCP and UDP ports) that is not via Tor.

  • If you leave a process running in the background consuming 100% of your cpu all the time, like setiathome or distributed.net, then your system won't get hotter, rather it will just be processing something else to load the cpu and still generating the same amount of heat.
  • What if there were a time sync server in the setup whose whole purpose in life is to keep track of the time?

    Have no other apps running on it, so that it has negligible system load. All the other systems in the TOR could be set up to sync their time with it every few seconds, i.e. before clock drift becomes detectable. Might check each and every second so as to intentionally cause a collision on the time server and add some randomness. Or, do a time sync every random(1..10) seconds. Or, use multiple NIC

  • by Terje Mathisen (128806) on Saturday December 30 2006, @11:48AM (#17409466)
    This theoretical attack is based on using (previously covered on /.) clock skew to identify systems.

    The correct defense is the same as the last time:

    a) Make sure that there is no system clock skew, by running Network Time Protocol (NTP) on all servers.

    b) Make sure that all externally visible timestamps are based on the system clock.

    Part (b) is the only difficult step, since many current IP stacks use a private counter/clock instead of the system clock, presumably to reduce the overhead of providing timestamps. I know that Linus T have discussed using user-level library code to provide microsecond resolution (or better) timestamps, with very low overhead:

    The library code can just query the cpu/system timer, multiply by the current scale factor (which depends on things like dynamically variable cpu clock frequency), and add the base time which was stored by the OS on the last HW clock interrupt: Total runtime, including call/return overhead can be below 100 clock cycles, which is fast enough to use it everywhere timestamps are needed:

    BTW, I wrote asm code to do exactly this inside Novell's NetWare OS a little over 10 years ago. In NetWare these timestamps were used by the Packet Burst algorithms which optimized packet transmission rates.

    Terje
    • by KshGoddess (454304) <kshgoddess&gmail,com> on Saturday December 30 2006, @01:53AM (#17406952) Homepage Journal
      the heat-up causes a shift in how much the clock drifts, and you can query time from different servers to pinpoint which one it is.

      See what reading the article gets you? A tiny nugget of useless information.
      • You left out the part about how his method only has 64 unique "fingerprints" and so this is utterly useless.
      • Fix it with NTP? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Kadin2048 (468275) <slashdot...kadin@@@xoxy...net> on Saturday December 30 2006, @02:04AM (#17406992) Homepage Journal
        Not that I think this sort of thing is really going to become anything more than an interesting proof-of-concept anytime soon, but couldn't you combat this by having a local NTP server for your server farm, and then setting the servers to update from that server at frequent intervals (say every 5 sec or so)? It would waste cycles on the machines and generate some extra load on the network, but it would keep the clocks from ever drifting far, and it would narrow the window in which you'd be able to detect drift to something pretty small.
        • by Splab (574204) on Saturday December 30 2006, @04:44AM (#17407546)
          The article is very low on information on how he proposes to locate a computer. Yes clock skew would help, but you need to locate the machine somehow. And on top of that he thinks that more traffic equals higher load on the cpu. This isn't necessarily true, in a closed environment you might be able to do it, but on a global scale I can't see how this would help you unless you got global knowledge of the network, and if you do, sybil [google.com] attack is a lot easier to do.

          One must remember TOR doesn't guarantee strong anonymity, for that you need something like Herbivore [cornell.edu].
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          The 1kHz clock driving the TCP timestamps in Linux is not NTP corrected. You should probably read his paper [cam.ac.uk].
        • by qbwiz (87077) * <`john' `at' `baumanfamily.com'> on Saturday December 30 2006, @01:59AM (#17406980) Homepage
          You measure clock skew before, during, and after you hit the hidden service. If the change in clock skew happens at the same time you load the server, that indicates that it's probably the correct server.
          • Read what you just said. Skew is a distortion of measurement. In normal operation there is no distortion, only when the crystal is heated. So by definition there is only one possible value for the skew and it's the change from before to after the crystal has been heated.
            • Sure there's clock skew normally. I know that my computer doesn't have a caesium-133 atom inside of it. As such, the clock is inaccurate and bound to vary relative to the correct time. I have noticed that it has been up to a couple of minutes off. Right now, as I updated it from an NTP server, it was 4 seconds off. It has to become inaccurate to have that problem.
    • Um... doesn't that require him to have physical access to the server anyway?

      According to TFA, no. Now maybe you want to R it.
      • by Arethan (223197) on Saturday December 30 2006, @02:04AM (#17406996) Journal

        According to TFA, no. Now maybe you want to R it.
        You must be new here...
        • by Hooya (518216) on Saturday December 30 2006, @02:16AM (#17407066) Homepage
          consider the parent posters ID: 25287
          consider your id: 223197

          then, consider the fact that you found "You must be new here" a novel response - at least novel enough for you to use it. let me just say, *You* must be new here. :P

          P.S. i hope the recursive irony - including my ID and the parent posters ID - is self evident. no need for recursive "*You* must be new here" replies. please think of the children.

          P.P.S. i don't really think recursion is the right word. but the fact that an 'older' user is declared 'new' by a newer user on each child post should lead to a division by zero, a black hole, or at least a bazzarro world somewhere... or it might just be my bed time.

    • by Barny (103770) <bakadamage-slashdot@yahoo.com> on Saturday December 30 2006, @02:15AM (#17407064) Journal
      Close, but no cigar.

      His software lets you pinpoint servers in the anon TOR network, good trick, but ultimately useless (since its the users computer you are trying to find).

      Of course the other problem is "giving it a heavy load" define heavy load? is it just a little more than usual? or does it mean you have to heat board (he goes off system clock, maintained by a frequency crystal on the MB), most data centres I would think would be fairly efficient at routing even high heat loads out of enclosures and away from the machine.

      And then, whoever he does this to can sue him for DoSing their machine, if they can prove (and its not overly difficult) that heat damages computer parts, he can be nabbed for wilful destruction of property as well, since his whole exercise heats the machine for no other reason than locating it.

      Then of course, the only way to "heat up" said computer is to do it through the TOR api, which i am guessing most anon servers are built to handle very well (since that would be their primary task).

      Oh, and this of course neglects to take into account that your TOR requests may be handled by many many servers in a cluster, each one heating and skewing at different rates...

      Ok, its late on a Saturday afternoon and I can poke that many holes in his trick (even if only one is at all real), gimme a good 2-3 hours with some energy drinks in me and I can find more I am sure ^_^

      If he can prove it works (and successfully do something usefull with it) in the real world, then it would be a better story.
      • Someone finally posted the Saddam execution video:


        And here I thought he was executed via hanging. Instead...

        Death by Boonga-Boonga!!!

    • What if your servers are busy with other tasks, like decoding other people's TOR traffic? It seems to me that busy servers are pretty chaotic and this attack would be pretty dicey in the real world.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        I picture this attack being used as part of an ongoing investigation. They have a target and they just need some pattern analysis to secure the warrant. Over a month-long investigation, they could glean a lot of info by throwing up very specific requests and seeing if your hard drive springs to life or your CPU spikes.

        In most cases, the wouldn't even need to be near your house. A well-positioned amp-meter with remote sensing could tell you if the CPU suddenly needed more power.
        • folding@home running at low priority will suck up the unused cycles on your machine giving a pretty much flat power draw in response to "extra" work since you are always doing extra work
        • A well-positioned amp-meter with remote sensing could tell you if the CPU suddenly needed more power.

          Somehow I don't think that would meet the standard for evidence...

          You need to measure tiny variations in current caused by one device, mixed in with the haystack of all the other electric devices in your house... Most of which can vary significantly from moment to moment.