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Microsoft Patents The Body Bus
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timothy
on Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:48 AM
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Mz6 writes "Microsoft has been awarded a patent for using
human skin as a power conduit and data bus. Patent No.
6,754,472, which was published Tuesday, describes a method for transmitting power and data to devices worn on the body and for communication of data between those devices. In its filing, Microsoft cites the proliferation of wearable electronic devices, such as wristwatches, pagers, PDAs (worn on people's belts) and small displays that can now be mounted on headgear. "As a result of carrying multiple portable electronic devices, there is often a significant amount of redundancy in terms of input/output devices included in the portable devices used by a single person," says the filing. "For example, a watch, pager, PDA and radio may all include a speaker." To reduce the redundancy of input/output devices, Microsoft's patent proposes a personal area network that allows a single data input or output device to be used by multiple portable devices." (What about DoCoMo's research in this area?)
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And in other news.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And in other news.... (Score:5, Interesting)
We are really screwed now.
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Re:And in other news.... (Score:5, Funny)
Man, I could go on forever..
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Re:And in other news.... (Score:5, Funny)
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I'll try extra hard not to get electrocuted now... (Score:5, Funny)
Wrong icon (Score:4, Funny)
: )
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This might be valid (Score:4, Insightful)
PRIOR ART (Score:5, Funny)
It gets it's energy from my body, and uses it as a data bus to send messages to my various other parts.
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Re:This might be valid (Score:5, Insightful)
Is it not a requirement for US patents to be non-obvious as well?
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Re:This might be valid (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:This might be valid (Score:5, Interesting)
With the Atari series of computers, it was possible to use human body as a game controller. By holding onto a pair of connectors connected to the paddle input pins, it was possible to change the resistance of the circuit by changing how strongly you gripped the connectors.
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Re:This might be valid (Score:5, Interesting)
Polar, Nike, even Timex have what I'd call body based data bus technology already. Interesting patent to say the least, I wonder what is next. Beside a proliferation of IP lawyers.
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Re:This might be valid (Score:5, Funny)
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the "Gates of Borg" picture (Score:5, Funny)
My thoughts exactly. (Score:5, Informative)
I guess Kevin Warwick [kevinwarwick.com] will enjoy the prospect of the Personal Area Network as described above, though. Now if only we could find a way to embed these devices directly into the skin and/or find a way to connect the input jacks directly into our brains...
(For those who don't know, Kevin Warwick is Professor of Cybernetics at Reading University, and performed an experiment on himself by implanting a tracking device into his arm, which allowed computers to determine which room he was in, and make judgements based on his position).
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Re:My thoughts exactly. (Score:5, Informative)
The folks over at El Reg are bigs fans of him
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What are you doing there with all these women? (Score:5, Funny)
No, really!
Re:What are you doing there with all these women? (Score:5, Funny)
Imagining a beowulf cluster.
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In other news, riaa speaks out (Score:5, Funny)
And in other news... (Score:5, Funny)
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Borg Love (Score:5, Funny)
Now that we can all be Borg, so I just want to know how long before we have Borg incubation chambers? Anyone with kids will back me on this... we need them. I would think the skin bus might cause cancer, wouldn't you? No FUD about it... this could be some scary shit when you consider Microsoft's security record, as well.
Re:Borg Love (Score:5, Funny)
Do the two networks connect?
Is my watch going to get a virus from her cellphone earings???
I have now officially coined the phrase "Sexually Transmitted Computer Virus" or STCV's.
I would love to see the sylibus for the sex-ed classes in 2010.
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Re:Borg Love (Score:4, Funny)
Sure.
Cause you don't build social attachement to MS Interns like you do to rats...
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Upon further research (Score:5, Funny)
the other 50%.. (Score:4, Funny)
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It's power not data (Score:5, Informative)
No -- It's power AND data (Score:5, Informative)
Yet at this web site, http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan.html, there is a white paper (dated November 18-19, 1996) where IBM demonstrates their "new Personal Area Network technology that uses the natural electrical conductivity of the human body to transmit electronic data".
So, IBM demonstrated similar techniques back in 1996 that used the natural electrical conductivity to transmit data.
However, Microsoft's claims focus on power, and frequency adjustments, this is basis for their ability to send data.
One of Microsoft's claims states "modulating an information signal transmitted" using this signal; yet, in the IBM white paper it states that "The natural salinity of the human body makes it an excellent conductor of electrical current. PAN technology takes advantage of this conductivity by creating an external electric field that passes an incredibly tiny current through the body, over which data is carried."
My gut says that many of MS's claims are voided by prior art -- but one would need to study the MS claims in detail, and compare it to DoCoMo's and IBM's research on the subject, to make a truly educated rebuttal.
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Handshaking (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's see... (Score:5, Funny)
So, instead of each device having a speaker... (Score:5, Interesting)
They are kidding, right?
-JDF
Oh great (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh great (Score:5, Funny)
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good luck MS (Score:5, Informative)
The concept of a PAN first was developed by Thomas Zimmerman and other researchers at M.I.T.'s Media Lab and later supported by IBM's Almaden research lab.
sorry but MIT and IBM is way ahead of Microsoft in this with prior art.
hell I made a example prototype from the information I recieved from mister Zimmerman back in 1997 for playing around with PAN's when i was heavy into the wearable computing research.
Microsoft, what Idea can we steal today?
Re:good luck MS (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:good luck MS (Score:5, Informative)
if they weren't trying to sneak the data stuff in there I would not have a problem with it, but they are trying to submarine the PAN data technology into their own patent.
strip out everything to do with data and I'll love the fact they have a patent on a new idea.
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Re:good luck MS (Score:5, Informative)
5796827 [uspto.gov] which is IBM's for the hand-shake data transfer.
6104913 [uspto.gov] IBM's PAN
and
6211799 [uspto.gov] MIT's on power/data transmission over the body.
Obviously they are building on previous patents, and have come up with an enhancement.
Or the patent office just rubber stamped it
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Anyone who has ever been electrocuted (Score:4, Insightful)
Here's the problem:
Patents are being awarded for spending a little time thinking. For having the luxury of free time to think, and company lawyers to file, companies are able to establish themselves as a gatekeeper.
Patents should be the product of effort - they were meant to reward that effort, and incent you to expend that amount of effort again in the future.
IMHO, these 'few hours of thought' patents are diametrically opposed to the concept of patents as enumerated in the Constitution.
IBM did this years ago. (Score:4, Informative)
I remember IBM had a demo product that would exchange virtual business cards via a handshake - it might well have been a plug-in to a Palm Pilot They theorized max xfer at 2400bps at the time - this was 1996-7 or so. Still looking for the link.
Re:IBM did this years ago. (Score:5, Informative)
Found it.
It was an IBM researcher by the name of Tom Zimmerman who created a "Personal Area Network", back in 1996: Personal Area Networks (PAN): A Technology Demonstration by IBM Research [ibm.com].
Looks and sounds a lot like what MSFT just patented.
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We are the Borg (Score:5, Funny)
Awesome (Score:5, Insightful)
Furthermore, this could open up the prospect of "implants" to help humans with different things. If Microsoft can really get data and power running through the human body, it could really usher in a new age of computing.
See IBM (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user
Where MS patent is different is they claim to do _power_ transmission as well.
I wonder about a Mr Tesla...
That said, I'm personally not comfortable with the idea of transmitting significant amounts of electrical power through my body- even low level power. Not sure what the side effects would be.
Already there are some studies that indicate that electromagnetic fields do affect the body AND brain [cognitiveliberty.org].
Cell Phones = Brain Tumors.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Body Bus = Skin Cancer?
It will certainly be a while before the long term effects of data or power over skin will be available. The lower levels of the epidermis constantly divide and push older dying cells outward to protect the body (info) [about.com]. Many things can cause improper division and lead to cancer. UV radiation everyone should already know about but so can excessive amounts from other radiant energy sources; such as electromagnetic or microwave. I don't believe short term exposure to low levels of energy have any chance of causeing problems in a healthy adult; but years of exposure over the same areas may be another story. There is no way in hell I want devices sending messages or power across my skin until there is significant data to say its safe.
I'm thinking of starting the "FOSSie" Religion (Score:5, Funny)
It'd bring a whole new meaning to having "worms"...
slashdot needs years on their date stamps... (Score:5, Informative)
In this case, it looks like this one was 2002 (the other option is an unlikely 1996), which is 2 years after MS filed their patent.
I'm lazy.. I hate having to use cal(1) to figure this out.
Re:Does this work??? (Score:5, Informative)
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And this is insightful how? (Score:5, Informative)
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