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Beastie Boys' New Album Silently Installs DRM Code
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timothy
on Sat Jun 19, 2004 07:35 PM
from the but-the-beastie-boys-are-so-countercultural dept.
from the but-the-beastie-boys-are-so-countercultural dept.
nfsilkey writes "After more than five years, the Beastie Boys have released a new album. It seems that the retail disc is bundled with a copy protection autoinstaller which silently silently puts itself onto the listener's computer. Many listeners are up in arms and some are venting their frustrations on the band's website."
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Heh (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Heh (Score:5, Funny)
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5 bucks says the shift key circumvents this.... (Score:5, Informative)
New Audio CD DRM Defeated by Use of ''SHIFT'' Key [yale.edu]
Google search that found above link, good read. [google.com]
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Re:Heh (Score:5, Funny)
Are you sure? According to the blurb, it "installs 'helpful' copy protection software on MacOS and Windows as soon as you insert the CD into default systems."
Looks like maybe the days of "it's okay, nothing will ever infect my machine, since nobody bothers to write things like this for macs" are coming to an end.
Here comes the death of "security-through-smugness"
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Illegal? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Informative)
Two words...
Spy-Ware
That said, if it's a stardard EXE I don't see how it would run on linux. [linux.com] :D And since Linux doesn't have an autorun annoyance... I mean feature, we'd have to consciously install it.
Once again, the solution is... Don't use M$ Windows [microsoft.com]. (Sorry Mac people, I have had no recent experience with a Mac to make a comment on it.
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Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Funny)
anyway, who is Ian $ez? Tell Ian that part of the whole point i$ that it doe$n't matter how the arti$t feel$ about copy protection. The label$ have been in the court$ and in front of the pre$$, repeatedly talking about the right$ of the arti$t; how well doe$ that rhetoric $tand up when we learn that the arti$t has no right to avoid $uch protection?
Where i$ the recording indu$trie$' re$pect for arti$t$' right$ in $uch a ca$e?
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Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Insightful)
By reading this you acknowledge my right to use your computer to research how better to write future comments. Oh yeah you have to give me your stuff too if you break our agreement. By reading this sentence you have broken our agreement. The next bag of potato chips you open signifies your compliance to turn over all properties that can be used to drink out of.
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Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Funny)
Well that seems fair.
When you read this reply to your post, you have agreed to put all your money in a paper bag, put your underwear on your head if it is not already there, slather yourself with Marmite, and run naked down the center of the street throwing your money to passers-by.
That is all.
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Re:Illegal? (Score:5, Informative)
One of the comments in the cited links says that the copy protection is only for discs sold outside the US and UK.
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My name's Mike D. and I want respect... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:My name's Mike D. and I want respect... (Score:5, Funny)
They did it like that [ttrtech.com]...
They did it with the wiffle ball bat [wiffleball.com]...
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Control (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Control (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Control (Score:5, Insightful)
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They aren't the only ones. (Score:5, Informative)
And even if you do get round the protection, the burner software may check for "Proper Licensing" anyway. I know MusicMatch does.
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You could also (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:They aren't the only ones. (Score:5, Informative)
Note that you can hold down shift while putting in a CD to disable autoplay for just that time.
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Oh, except on music CD's (Score:5, Interesting)
From Microsoft's description:
Turns off the Autoplay feature.
Autoplay begins reading from a drive as soon as you insert media in the drive. As a result, the setup file of programs and the music on audio media start immediately.
By default, Autoplay is disabled on removable drives, such as the floppy disk drive (but not the CD-ROM drive), and on network drives.
If you enable this setting, you can also disable Autoplay on CD-ROM drives or disable Autoplay on all drives.
This setting disables Autoplay on additional types of drives. You cannot use this setting to enable Autoplay on drives on which it is disabled by default.
Note: This setting appears in both the Computer Configuration and User Configuration folders. If the settings conflict, the setting in Computer Configuration takes precedence over the setting in User Configuration.
Note: This setting does not prevent Autoplay for music CDs.
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Silently installing DRM eh? (Score:5, Interesting)
DRM for what? (Score:5, Informative)
I bought "To The 5 Boroughs" (cause I'm representin' Manhattan), and ripped all the tracks to my iPod with no problems. Just what does the DRM code do?
I'm on a Mac, is this another case where I'm missing out on the DRM fun because of platform neglect? (There IS a Mac partition on the disc, but all it seems to have on it is a Macromedia presentation with a QuickTime movie.)
Obligatory Futurama Quote: (Score:5, Funny)
Get your harddrive scratched by the Beastie Boys!
Calm yourself... (Score:5, Funny)
should be a law (Score:5, Insightful)
Does the band know or care..? (Score:5, Informative)
To quote from_ disc_ha.html
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/11/new_beasties
Re:Does the band know or care..? (Score:5, Interesting)
Tell me again how this sort of crap is supposed to deter piracy? All they are doing is actively encouraging it.
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You gotta fight... (Score:5, Funny)
You gotta fight for your right to copy!
Re:You gotta fight... (Score:5, Funny)
You go to your PC it says "no go"
Loaded DRM - your machine won't work
But the Beasties don't tell you like you're some kind of jerk.
You gotta fight for your right to copy
The Boys caught your sampling and they said "No Way"
Those hypocrites - use samples every day.
Man, del-ing this is such a drag
Now your idols tossed all their cred in the bag.
You gotta fight for your right to copy!
Don't you buy our CD if you expect to have a hear.
Cause our DRM won't let you play it through the air.
Your PC busted and you said "Where's my noise?"
Aw, man, it won't play cause it's the Beastie Boys.
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Isn't this easily circumvented? (Score:5, Funny)
Wait, is mentioning that little workaround considered a DMCA violation?
This is Illegal in Minnesota (Score:5, Interesting)
609.88 Computer damage.
Subdivision 1. Acts. Whoever does any of the following is guilty of computer damage and may be sentenced as provided in subdivision 2:
(b) intentionally and without authorization or with intent to injure or defraud alters any computer, computer system, computer network, computer software, or any other property specifically defined in section 609.87, subdivision 6;
Subd. 2. Penalty. Whoever commits computer damage may be sentenced as follows:
(a) To imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $50,000, or both, if the damage, destruction or alteration results in a loss in excess of $2,500, to the owner, or the owner's agent, or lessee;
(b) To imprisonment for not more than five years or to payment of a fine of not more than $10,000, or both, if the damage, destruction or alteration results in a loss of more than $500, but not more than $2,500 to the owner, or the owner's agent or lessee; or
(c) In all other cases to imprisonment for not more than 90 days or to payment of a fine of not more than $700, or both.
So for all Windows users (Score:5, Informative)
To shut it off, open your registry editor and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servi
When you do this, Windows will no longer popup and do anything when you put a disk in. Instead, it will wait for you to do something. For normal data disks, this means you'll have to go run setup yourself. For evil audio disks such as this, they'll simply never install their BS and you can play as normal.
Re:So for all Windows users (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:So for all Windows users (Score:5, Informative)
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Not going to check this out (Score:5, Funny)
Shows why Linux is not ready for the desktop (Score:5, Funny)
Seriously, this is just stupid. I would guess that most pirated MP3s that are being shared out there have been downloaded from someone else, not ripped from the original CD. So it really only takes a few people with either a linux box or enough sense to turn of autorun on their CD drive to be able to spread pirated MP3s all over the world. This can't possibly stop anything and will likely piss off the people that are supposed to be customers.
Autorun on Mac OS? (Score:5, Interesting)
Quotes from the story links...
"It seems that Capitol Records has some sort of new copy protection system, that automatically, silently, installs "helpful" copy protection software on MacOS and Windows as soon as you insert the CD into default systems."
"They include some sort of uninstaller buried on there for Windows, but I see no such thing for MacOS."
I've never heard of something like the "autorun" feature for Mac OS. Is there one? Or was the person who wrote this unfamiliar with Mac OS and just presumed it had one?
TweakUI (Score:5, Informative)
I'm also pretty sure that holding shift when you put the cd in will do the same thing.
Prosecute them for writing a Virus/Trojan horse (Score:5, Insightful)
1. It is malicious (prevents you from copying the CD as you noramlly would be able to.
2. It silently installs itself, masquarading as a
standard Audio CD (I'm sorry, 5" music disc)
How is that different than any other trojan horse?
see this is what happens (Score:5, Insightful)
Beastie boys my ass
Strange (Score:5, Interesting)
Strange that they are critical of their government yet side with the record companies on this issue. Maybe they don't mean what they say? Or purphaps the record company pulled this one of them without telling them?
I certainly won't be buying it anyway. I'll add it to the not-worth-buying-but-good-download-potential list.
Arrogance (Score:5, Insightful)
And if they say no, the goddamned thing doesn't play, they take it back to the store and get a refund.
What this evil corporation is saying, is: "Fuck you. We own you. We own your computer. You'll take it and like it, because protecting our digital rights trump fucking up your piece of shit from Dell, you fucking Joe Sixpack sheeple. If you don't like it call your Congresscritter. Oops, we own it, too."
beastieboys.com Offline (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe some hackers acualy buyed the cd. and got mad.
Re:DRM is worth it (Score:5, Funny)
subtle, but effective.
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Re:Fuck them. (Score:5, Insightful)
Funny, I'm sure thats what someone said when they realized how much they lost by people downloading their stuff and then decided to add this DRM crap.
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Re:Fuck them. (Score:5, Funny)
We'll see who's laughing then!
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Re:Beasties (Score:5, Funny)
Beasties: Hell no, dude. We DEMAND you put some evil copy protection on the album!
Record exec: Isn't that horribly unfair towards the customers, guys? Come on, have a heart.
Beasties: Oh yeah? Well fuck you, fat Record Exec. We've got the right to party! *BLAWW* *BLAWW* *BLAWW*
Record exec: *Aaaargh* Oooooverrr my deaaaad boddyyyyyy... custooooemmueua *AAAARGH* cstmrrrrs muuust beee pa... pah.... pahmpppered.. *groan*
Beasties: *Urinate on the dead Record Exec and offer a sacrifice to Satan*
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Heh, Naive slashdotters.... (Score:5, Insightful)
There's no such thing as a band "selling out". That's naive bullshit. They're an entertainment act, created to make lots of money. Period. They preach the revolution, because they know you guys will pony up your cash and buy into it. It sells records.
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Re:Do as I say, not as I do... (Score:5, Informative)
These days, the recording companies seem to have a special system in place to trade sample rights. The liner notes often say something like "sample licensed through so-and-so recording company special products division". I'm sure that if DRM was somehow preventing their sampling (although they would probably work around this by holding down the shift key like anyone else), they could arrange to get an official sample straight from the source.
The ironic thing is that the Beastie Boys' early days, before court rulings that forced people to pay up, they did massive sampling without attributing the sources. I have their "Paul's Boutique" album from 1989 (A pretty good CD, IMO). I've seen a blurb somewhere that said that an album like this couldn't be made today, given that each track contains at least 2 or 3 recognizable samples. In fact, I'd say that the samples are so prominent, they are the main "musical instrument" on the record. Many of these weren't obscure samples either; I recognized some of the main "hooks" out of several top-40 hits. There are zero credits in the liner notes mentioning any of these samples.
Compare this to The Verve, who tried to get away with only a slightly worse sample ripoff a decade later, and got their asses handed to them on a platter by the Rolling Stones' lawyers.
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