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Microsoft Gadget Keeps Record of Your Life

Posted by michael on Fri Mar 05, 2004 09:43 AM
from the unexamined-life-not-worth-living-etc.-etc. dept.
An anonymous reader writes "SenseCam, touted as a visual diary of sorts by Microsoft Corp., is designed to be worn around the neck and take up to 2,000 images a 12-hour day automatically. The prototype responds to changes such as bright lights and sudden movements and might one day even respond to other stimuli such as heart rate or skin temperature -- to track medical problems as easily as to record a Hawaiian vacation."
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  • Strange days (Score:5, Interesting)

    by panxerox (575545) * on Friday March 05 2004, @09:43AM (#8474805)
    "Strange days" anyone? Can users sell thier "Record of Your Life recordings"? Can "Record of Your Life recordings" be held against you in a court of law?
    • Get a life (Score:5, Funny)

      by AtariAmarok (451306) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:48AM (#8474869)
      "hehe. I used Grokster to download 120 people's lives, and now my hard drive is full of them."
      • A company called Videolife has a more primitive, but essentially the same thing, in the early 90s.
      • You think you're being funny. I think so, too. But never underestimate the true allure of voyeurism -- and I'm not talking porno. People like to look into other people's lives. Photographs are one the most intimate ways to do that (and for this reason, I found that awkward movie kind of chilling).

        I keep all my photos online [dasmegabyte.org] (I've got about 3200). I only take maybe 100-200 a month and am really bad about posting them.

        There are people -- friends I haven't seen in forever, ex-coworkers, and even people who only know me from friggin' slashdot -- who only ever communicate with me to ask when I'm updating the site. People love it. And I lead a pretty boring life! Can you imagine if somebody interesting (like, say, a cop, a rock singer, Linus Torvalds) started posting a massive visual blog of their entire day?
    • Orson Scott Card talked about something similar in The Worthing Saga [amazon.com]. Instead of two-hour movies, people would watch a continuous section of a person't life. Except the recording device captured the whole area, and was strapped to the star's leg.
    • by shokk (187512) <ernieoporto.yahoo@com> on Friday March 05 2004, @11:41AM (#8476175) Homepage Journal
      "Honey, I was looking through the SenseCam pictures that automatically dumped to the TiVo gallery wirelessly when you walked in the door today. Why is your penis in the secretary?"
  • by CreamOfWheat (593775) * on Friday March 05 2004, @09:44AM (#8474811)
    Does this mean I will have to sit through all (2000 * 2 * 7) = 28,000 pictures from my jerk-wad Brother-In-Law's boring one week Hawaiian vacation? Talk about a death wish.

  • WOW! This does sound fascinating but I hope it comes with a better manual, the info from MS' page info doesn't even explain what type of batteries it requires:

    Server Error in '/' Application.


    Unable to load overridden shell configuration file /Configuration.xml.

    Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

    Exception Details: System.Exception: Unable to load overridden shell configuration file /Configuration.xml.

    Source Error:
    An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the
    current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of
    the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace
    below.
    ~ Stack Trace:
    [Exception: Unable to load overridden shell configuration file /Configuration.xml.]
    Microsoft.MSCOM.MNP.Framework.Page.OnInit(EventArg s e) +6503
    System.Web.UI.Control.InitRecursive(Control namingContainer) +240
    System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +174

    Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.573; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.573



    Maybe I need more coffee this fine morning...

  • by AtariAmarok (451306) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:44AM (#8474816)
    This is like one of those electronic probation tether things for crooks, but it reports back to Bill Gates instead of to the courts.
    • by lildogie (54998) on Friday March 05 2004, @11:37AM (#8476115)
      > This is like one of those electronic probation tether things for crooks

      Not just for crooks.

      Imagine having to wear one of these things as a condition of probation.

      Or as a condition of employment.

      Imagine having to wear it 24x7 to prove that you're not doing anything "bad," as in "bad in the eyes of someone who holds power over you."

      Imagine being accused of being "bad" because you _won't_ wear such a device 24x7.

      And you were worried about having to pee in a cup.
  • by winkydink (650484) * <sv.dude@gmail.com> on Friday March 05 2004, @09:44AM (#8474818) Homepage Journal
    If I wear one of these and my PDA wristwatch at the same time, I'll be getting more @ss than a toilet seat.
  • Zip through (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mod_critical (699118) * on Friday March 05 2004, @09:44AM (#8474820)

    From The Artical:
    "Perhaps weeks or months later, she might have zipped through them to figure out when she last saw a particular colleague or what bottle of wine she had been drinking that night."

    Two THOUSAND pictures a day? ZIP through them?

    This thing looks larger than my Cybershot-U (which much better pictures than what I saw on Microsoft's site from it), and seems like it would require a _lot_ of work to constantly maintain and keep organized the hundreds to thousands of photos taken everyday. Let alone time to download them on a regular basis... There are defiently some cool things on that Microsoft page though, this just isn't one of them =P

    • Well, with 2,000 pictures a day, you could easily have an app that ran them as a movie and let you blast through on fast forward or whatever - so you had that wine on Jerry's birthday, in the evening - let's say 100 pictures cover that event over two hours, that's nothng to sift through. Of course, you need to know approximately where to look, and the more info you had the better, but I don't see a problem here - I know the meal was in January around 8pm, so give me 8pm thumbnails from 1st-31st January. Oka
  • Show of hands (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Lord Grey (463613) * on Friday March 05 2004, @09:44AM (#8474821)
    The first thing I thought of when I read the article was, "Great. Instead of Big Brother we now have to worry about his zillions of little siblings."

    While I can see the interest in a gadget like SenseCam, how many of you believe that it will be turned into spyware by a large number of people almost immediately?

    We've already seen some of the negative effects of putting cameras into cell phones: Guys snipping pictures up skirts in bars, etc.. You also hear about pictures being taken by witnesses of license plates on cars used in crimes, but not as often. These events don't occur very often because people still have to actually take the picture, and that takes time and coordination, and also because cell phone cameras suck so bad.

    But let's give people a very, very easy way to take pictures of whatever is in front of them. What happens? People go looking for interesting things to stand in front of. Other people are interesting, especially when they're doing something out of the ordinary. Or something wrong.

    Because the SenseCam people don't have a BatPhone, they don't know where the interesting people are minute-to-minute. They take their cameras and just start hanging around places. The cameras take lots of pictures. Later, the pictures get reviewed. Many get deleted, some are saved, some are posted to the Internet as some kind of video blog.

    Slashdot readers can take it from there.

    • by lavaface (685630) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:03AM (#8475039) Homepage
      We've already seen some of the negative effects of putting cameras into cell phones: Guys snipping pictures up skirts in bars, etc..

      Negative ?? [taxthatass.com] ; )

    • The first thing I thought of when I read the article was, "Great. Instead of Big Brother we now have to worry about his zillions of little siblings."

      Funny, the first thing I thought of when I read about this was, "I wonder how much I would have to pay Ron Jeremy to wear it for a week, and what subsequent margins could I expect when I later auctioned it on e-bay?"

      I suspect you and I are very different types of people...
      • Re:Show of hands (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        I don't do anything I have to hide.

        Did you get a credit card? Post the number here.

        Did you go to the toilet today? Post videos. You haven't GOT any videos? You must have been doing something bad then.

        Do you have a girlfriend? What's her name and address? Does she have a credit card?

        (In case someone didn't notice the point of this post... privacy is rather important.)
      • you don't THINK you have anything to hide...

        now I am not paranoid by any means, but to think that everything about you can be public information without any dangers is utter folly!

        for one: SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER

        what about credit card numbers, bank statements, taxes, ANYTHING

        plus just because you "don't have anything to hide" doesn't affect the right to privacy that we as americans enjoy...even if someone is a criminal, the potential Big Brother risks STILL violate his civil rights...

        i don't have anythi
  • by nycsubway (79012) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:46AM (#8474842) Homepage
    There are some things that I just don't want Microsoft to see in my daily routines. Some of which occur in front of my computer...

  • by Amiga Lover (708890) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:47AM (#8474855)
    If I come across anyone using this near me.. I will punch them in the face. That, or bring out a large camera with flash and continually photograph them every moment they're talking to me

    They'll either go away or turn the gadget off. Freaks
  • by stonebeat.org (562495) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:48AM (#8474867) Homepage
    first MS Word keeps track of all of my editing [slashdot.org] and now another MS gadgt keeps track of my life. That can't be too good. Maybe we need to buy one of these for SCO lawyers.
  • by Lizard_King (149713) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:48AM (#8474871) Journal
    Let's replay my week using my nifty new SenseCam:

    Monday: go to work ass early. sit in cube. go home.
    Tuesday: go to work ass early. sit in cube. go home.
    Wednesday: go to work ass early. sit in cube. go home.
    Thursday: go to work ass early. sit in cube. go home.
    Friday: go to work ass early. sit in cube. go home.
    Weekend: sit in front of computer and take recursive pictures of self.

    Omigosh!! It would be hard to live in denial with one of these things =)
  • oh good (Score:5, Interesting)

    by andih8u (639841) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:49AM (#8474880)
    The millions of blogs out there didn't clog searches up nearly enough, now maybe we can fill google image search with the hundreds of thousands of pictures that will now go along with the description of "got up this morning, had breakfast, went out of the front door..."
  • it captures VGA sized pics.. how well can it grab handwritten notes or (as I read in another article) a bottle of wine well enough that you can ID it?
  • by Cheo (730562) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:50AM (#8474900)
    So when the latest virus attacks MSFT systems, your life will stop until they can issue a patch.
    But...they will pledge to restore it to the point before the attack. :-)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 05 2004, @09:51AM (#8474904)
    Monitoring device around you neck?

    Will next version include a small explosive to keep you from doing bad things like watching DVDs in Linux?
  • wow (Score:3, Funny)

    by ColonBlow (120356) on Friday March 05 2004, @09:53AM (#8474932) Journal
    this thing would be great on those days you have really, really bad diarrhea.
  • by kagejishin (631359) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:00AM (#8475001)
    Sure it'll help me "to figure out when [I] last saw a particular colleague or what bottle of wine [I] had been drinking that night" but will it help me figure out where I am, who this person is beside me and what kind of tequila got me here?
  • by cyber_rigger (527103) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:01AM (#8475018) Homepage Journal
    It's called Passport
  • I like it (Score:3, Funny)

    by trash eighty (457611) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:04AM (#8475049) Homepage
    all the hot chicks i see when walking around the campus i work at i can now record for prosperity and keep for later ..uh... analysis, instead of trying to remember them all. bring it to market ASAP!!
  • That was my impression, from reading the article in question.

    -MT.
  • Snow Crash? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by doomicon (5310) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:06AM (#8475068) Homepage Journal
    Reminds me of Snow Crash, whereas ubergeeks wore equipmemnt that recorded EVERYTHING, w/ the hopes that someone would want to buy a peice of their data.
  • by Raven42rac (448205) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:07AM (#8475082)
    You mean Windows XP?
  • by nuggz (69912) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:15AM (#8475160) Homepage
    Isn't this similar to a slashdot story of about 2 years ago?

    Basically a small recorder that broadcasted a RFID, and would record that of others.
    This would result in a log of every RFID tag you came across, remember what books you looked at, which people you saw.

    The privacy issue pointed that out too.
  • Collage? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by carlcmc (322350) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:22AM (#8475240)
    You know those pictures that are a compilation of thousands of pictures? One could use these to do that. BTW, does anyone know of a program to make one of those collage pictures?
  • by knarf (34928) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:27AM (#8475293) Homepage

    In 2001 I paddled the Yukon from Whitehorse (Canada) to Emmonak (Alaska, at the mouth of the river) in a 17 ft. canoe. To document the experience without too much hassle, I built a solar-powered waterproof computer out of a Virgin WebPlayer (remember those?) and some assorted electronic parts. The machine was/is equipped with a VGA webcam, which took pictures with regular intervals or when ordered to do so (whichever came first). It could also do motion tracking, snapping shots of passing animals etc. It could also record sound if needed. All of that was stored on two 20 GB notebook harddrives inside the machine. I mentioned the project on /. in this posting [slashdot.org].

    Had I still had my webserver (...no broadband where I now live, in Sweden...) those pictures would be visible for all to see. The camera was attached with a velcro strip to my hat, or sometimes to the canoe. It contains a microphone as well, so it could also record sounds (a function I did not use at the time). The whole setup worked fine, right until a leak in the camera's waterproofing and a subsequent rainy week smudged the CCD sensor. Pictures were blurry after that...

    Of course I'm not the only one who has done things like this. There is a lot of 'prior art' in this field.

  • by Serious Simon (701084) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:31AM (#8475356)
    an alarm clock that figures out when to wake you based on current traffic conditions.

    Great, now I can catch some sleep on the way to work. The Sensecam will wake me up before I cause an accident

  • by Bohnanza (523456) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:47AM (#8475526)
    Two thousand views of my PC monitor.
  • take up to 2,000 images a 12-hour day

    Yet another example of how Microsoft refuse to interoperate - I'm a UNIX hacker and my days have 24 hours in them, as required by ISO 8601. What annoys me is that so many people use MS stuff that they'll start thinking that days are supposed to be 12 hours long, and that everyone doing it the old 24-hour way is just being belligerent.

    • Re:Security (Score:4, Insightful)

      by zephc (225327) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:00AM (#8475003)
      unless you get this implanted in your forehead (as I'm sure MS would wish people would do ;) ) the mugger/rapist would just take your cam. Bam, no (video) evidence.
      • unless you get this implanted in your forehead

        That would hardly be innovative, though -- it was predicted nearly two thousand years ago.

    • Re:Security (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Rick.C (626083) on Friday March 05 2004, @10:08AM (#8475092)
      If you get mugged or robbed, rape or such you have a picture of your attacker.

      You mean your attacker has a record of where you've been that day, including a picture of your car and your house.

      Why would an attacker let you keep the camera that just took his picture? In order to function, it must have a clear view of your surroundings. Hiding it in your pocket sort of defeats the purpose. Hiding it in your purse (with a peep hole) means it gets stolen along with the purse.